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[–] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The classic definition of middle class was, as far as I learned it, making enough money that you could afford to pay for your family's expenses without needing your wife to also work.

This came out of the poor working conditions in factories in the 1800s, where people often were hurt, maimed, or even killed (compared to today, this was quite common). If you made enough money that only one family member had to suffer (at this time it was always the husband), that was the bare minimum to be considered middle class. This was regardless of income, it was more about what you could afford.

Prior to this, I'm not sure middle class was really much of a concept. Most groups were separated by trade and upbringing, and pretty much overall separating the low class from artisans, merchants, nobility, and royalty, with no real middle class afaik. It was, for example, quite common for artisan families to all work together

Edit: i feel compelled to share that i studied history for my degree, and i am sharing one of the definitions i was taught.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Common definitions for the middle class range from the middle fifth of individuals on a nation's income ladder, to everyone but the poorest and wealthiest 20%.

From Wikipedia.

[–] abysmalpoptart@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I thought we were talking classical definitions, not the definition/s currently considered common according to Wikipedia.

I had no intention of declaring your personal financial situation. I was trying to provide historical context for the term (as far as I know).