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James "I need about a 10-game window" Harden finishes his 11th game with 11/2/4 and 3 TOs in a loss against the Jokic, Murray, and Gordon-less Nuggets (alien.top)

submitted 11 months ago by northernjigby@alien.top to c/nba@nba.space

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The Clippers are now 4-7 since trading for Harden, or 0-1 in his "ready" state.

Memes aside, he was okay this game, but okay isn't good enough when you're with a fully healthy Clippers vs a Reggie Jackson-led Nuggets.

Harden isn't exactly playing terribly as a Clippers, but at this point in his career, it's hard to justify an offence-first player on a team as offensively stacked as the Clippers when they're in desperate need of some more off-ball movement.

Harden is looking to secure a max extension, we'll have to see what kind of contract he can muster as he gets more into game shape as the season progresses.

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[–] joeb1ow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't give you full credit, OP. It seems that you and the other posters who responded were discussing if Maxey can reach Harden's 2021 level of play, not just simply pass him up.

Yes, Maxey improved in two years, but not THAT much. Harden's regression since then plays just as much of a role in the upside switch between the two as any other factor. I mean, by the '01/'02 season, Ray Allen was a better player than Jordan, so it happens.

[–] karthik4331@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I just thought it would be fun to look up that stats.

Jordan averaged 23/6/5 with 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks on 42% FG.

Ray Allen averaged 22/5/4 with 1.3 steals and 0.3 blocks on 46% FG .

That's actually pretty close lol. I expected a really big difference

[–] Turence@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol they're wrong again

[–] Celtic_Legend@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

2001 is before my time but you got to look at defense too. Defensive rating goes to jordan (i know, not perfect, but i cant watch 160 games for a reddit comment). Which is insane since hes 40 years old.

[–] achyutthegoat@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Insane box score watching

[–] Public-Product-1503@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why are you using fg%? Ray took lots of threes while Jordan was bricking constantly . Ray was more efficient: Jordan on the wizards had lakers Russ efficiency and was not a positive player : he took as many shots as Chicago Jordan just missed a lot more n less Fta