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Pro Football Hall of Fame announces 25 modern-era semifinalists for Class of 2024 (www.nfl.com)
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[–] rkunish@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless we're gonna start taking guys out of the HOF there's about 10-15 of these guys who are absolutely HOF quality based on previously inducted players at their positions. And probably another 10 or so who aren't even semi-finalists.

[–] SleestakLightning@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see it.

But I'm in favor of taking guys out of the Hall.

[–] rkunish@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Oh I am too but since that's not going to happen I just belligerently adopt the position that every single player better than the worst player in at a given position deserves to be in the HOF.

Here's a list of every eligible player who in my opinion has a better resume than the worst player in the HOF at their position, which includes 44 players.

QB - none

RB (Floyd Little: 2010; 1967-1975, 9-DEN; 1xAP1, 5xPB; 1641att, 6323yds, 3.9ypa, 43td, 32fumb, 215rec, 2418yds, 9tds)

  1. Priest Holmes: 1997-2007, 6-KC, 4-BAL; 1xSBC(1-0), 1xOPOY, 3xAP1, 3xPB; 1780att, 8172yds, 4.6ypa, 86td, 16fumb, 339rec, 2962yds, 8td

  2. Shaun Alexander: 2000-2008, 8-SEA, 1-WAS; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAD2, 1xMVP, 1xOPOY, 1xAP1, 1xAP2, 3xPB; 2187att, 9453yds, 4.3ypa, 100td, 31fumb, 215rec, 1520yds, 12td

WR (Bobby Mitchell: 1983; 1958-1968, 7-WAS, 4-CLE; 1xAP1, 1xAP2, 4xPB; 521rec, 7954yds, 65td, could also say Art Monk or Harold Carmichael)

  1. Andre Johnson: 2003-2016, 12-HOU, 1-IND, 1-TEN; 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 7xPB; 1062rec, 14185yds, 70td; 3xSF, 2xF

  2. Reggie Wayne: 2001-2014, 14-IND; 1xSBC(1-1), 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 6xPB; 1070rec, 14345yds, 82td; 5xSF, 4xF

  3. Torry Holt: 1999-2009, 10-LAR, 1-JAX; 1xSBC(1-1), 1xAD2, 1xAP1, 1xAP2, 7xPB; 920rec, 13382yds, 74td; 10xSF, 4xF

  4. Steve Smith: 2001-2016, 13-CAR, 3-BAL; 0xSBC(0-1), 2xAP1, 1xAP2, 5xPB; 1031rec, 14731yds, 81td; 3xSF

  5. Brandon Marshall: 2006-2018, 4-DEN, 3-CHI, 2-MIA, 2-NYJ, 1-NYG, 1-SEA; 1xAP1, 1xAP2, 6xPB; 970rec, 12351yds, 83td

  6. Hines Ward: 1998-2011, 14-PIT; 2xSBC(2-1), 1xSBMVP, 3xAP2, 4xPB; 1000rec, 12083yds, 85td; 8xSF

  7. Chad Johnson: 2001-2011, 10-CIN, 1-NE; 2xAP1, 1xAP2, 6xPB; 766rec, 11059yds, 67td

  8. Wes Welker: 2004-2015, 6-NE, 3-MIA, 2-DEN, 1-LAR; 0xSBC(0-3), 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 5xPB; 903rec, 9924yds, 50td

  9. Herman Moore: 1991-2002, 11-DET, 1-NYG; 3xAP1, 4xPB; 670rec, 9174yds, 62td

TE (Jackie Smith: 1994; 1963-1978, 15-ARI, 1-DAL; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAP2, 5xPB; 480rec, 7918yds, 40td)

  1. Antonio Gates: 2003-2018, 16-LAC; 1xAD2, 3xAP1, 2xAP2, 8xPB; 955rec, 11841yds, 116td; 1xF

  2. Ben Coates: 1991-2000, 9-NE, 1-BAL; 1xSBC(1-1), 1xAD2, 2xAP1, 1xAP2, 5xPB; 499rec, 5555yds, 50td

OT (Mike McCormack: 1984; 1951-1962, 9-CLE, 1-NYY; 2xNFLC(2-1), 3xAP2, 6xPB; 117/119g, 10xst, or Jimbo Covert)

  1. Richmond Webb: 1990-2002, 11-MIA, 2-CIN; 1xAD2, 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 7xPB; 183/184g, 12xst

  2. Lomas Brown: 1985-2002, 11-DET, 3-ARI, 2-NYG, 1-TB, 1-CLE; 1xSBC(1-1), 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 7xPB; 251/263g, 17xst

OG (George Musso: 1982; 1933-1944, 12-CHI; 4xNFLC(4-3), 1xAP1, 1xAP2, 3xPB; 84/128g, 8xst)

  1. Jahri Evans: 2006-2017, 11-NO, 1-GB; 1xSBC(1-0), 1xAD, 4xAP1, 1xAP2, 6xPB; 183/183g, 12xst; 2xSF

  2. Steve Wisniewski: 1989-2001, 13-LV; 1xAD2, 2xAP1, 6xAP2, 8xPB; 206/206g, 13xst; 1xSF

  3. Logan Mankins: 2005-2015, 9-NE, 2-TB; 0xSBC(0-2), 1xAD, 1xAP1, 5xAP2, 7xPB; 161/161g, 11xst

  4. Ruben Brown: 1995-2007, 9-BUF, 4-CHI; 0xSBC(0-1), 4xAP2, 9xPB; 181/181g, 13xst

  5. Nate Newton: 1986-1999, 13-DAL, 1-CAR; 3xSBC(3-0), 2xAP1, 6xPB; 180/198g, 12xst

  6. Brian Waters: 2000-2013, 11-KC, 1-NE, 1-DAL; 0xSBC(0-1), 2xAP1, 6xPB; 170/186g, 11xst

C - none

DT - (Joe Klecko: 2023, 1977-1988, 11-NYJ, 1-IND; 2xAP1, 1xAP2, 4xPB; 9xst, 9fr, 78.0sk or Bryant Young)

  1. Kevin Williams: 2003-2015, 11-MIN, 1-NO, 1-SEA; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAD2, 5xAP1, 6xPB; 13xst, 5int, 2td, 73pd, 10ff, 13fr, 2td, 63.0sk, 373/533tkl, 113tfl, 90qbh

  2. Vince Wilfork: 2004-2016, 11-NE, 2-HOU; 2xSBC(2-2), 1xAP1, 3xAP2, 5xPB; 11xst, 3int, 27pd, 5ff, 12fr, 1td, 16.0sk, 370/565tkl, 39tfl, 38qbh; 3xSF

  3. Haloti Ngata: 2006-2018, 9-BAL, 3-DET, 1-PHI; 1xSBC(1-0), 2xAP1, 3xAP2, 5xPB; 11xst, 5int, 40pd, 7ff, 5fr, 1td, 32.5sk, 326/518tkl, 63tfl, 91qbh

  4. La’Roi Glover: 1996-2008, 5-NO, 4-DAL, 3-LAR, 1-LV; 1xAD2, 1xAP1, 3xAP2, 6xPB; 11xst, 2int, 5pd, 16ff, 8fr, 83.5sk, 432/551tkl, 93tfl, 29qbh, 1sfty

  5. Justin Smith: 2001-2014; 7-CIN, 7-SF; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 5xPB; 14xst, 3int, 30pd, 16ff, 10fr, 87.0sk, 613/880tkl, 119tfl, 137qbh

DE (Fred Dean: 2008; 1975-1985, 7-LAC, 5-SF; 2xSBC(2-0), 2xAP1, 4xPB; 6xst, 1int, 1td, 13fr, 1td, 92.0sk)

  1. Julius Peppers: 2002-2018; 10-CAR, 4-CHI, 3-GB; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAD, 1xAD2, 3xAP1, 3xAP2, 9xPB, 1xDROY; 16xst, 11int, 4td, 82pd, 52ff, 21fr, 2td, 159.5sk, 557/724tkl, 175tfl, 186qbh; 1xSF

  2. Dwight Freeney: 2002-2017; 11-IND, 2-LAC, 1-ARI, 1-ATL, 1-DET, 1-SEA; 1xSBC(1-2), 1xAD1, 3xAP1, 1xAP2, 7xPB; 12xst, 16pd, 46ff, 4fr, 1td, 125.5sk, 284/333tkl, 128tfl, 148qbh, 1sfty; 2xSF, 1xF

  3. Jared Allen: 2004-2015; 6-MIN, 4-KC, 2-CHI, 1-CAR; 0xSBC(0-1), 4xAP1, 5xPB; 12xst 6int, 1td, 58pd, 32ff, 19fr, 1td, 136.0sk, 498/642tkl, 171tfl, 228qbh, 4sfty; 4xSF, 3xF

  4. Neil Smith: 1988-2000; 9-KC, 3-DEN, 1-LAC; 2xSBC(2-0), 1xAD2, 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 6xPB; 11xst, 4int, 1td, 2pd, 30ff, 12fr, 1td, 104.5sk, 623tkl, 8tfl

  5. Leslie O’Neal: 1986-1999; 9-LAC, 2-KC, 2-LAR; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xDROY, 1xAP2, 6xPB; 12xst, 3int, 1td, 2pd, 21ff, 16fr, 1td, 132.5sk, 768tkl, 8tfl; 1xSF

  6. John Abraham: 2000-2014; 7-ATL, 6-NYJ, 2-ARI; 2xAP1, 1xAP2, 5xPB; 11xst, 1int, 30pd, 47ff, 6fr, 1td, 133.5sk, 446/547tkl, 148tfl, 129qbh, 1sfty

  7. Robert Mathis: 2003-2016, 14-IND; 1xSBC(1-1), 1xAP1, 5xPB; 9xst, 1int, 18pd, 54ff, 17fr, 3td, 123.0sk, 397/527tkl, 108tfl, 141qbh, 1sfty; 3xSF

LB (Sam Mills: 2022; 1986-1997, 9-NO, 3-CAR; 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 5xPB; 11xst, 11int, 1td, 22ff, 23fr, 3td, 20.5sk, 1265tkl)

  1. Patrick Willis: 2007-2014, 8-SF; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAD, 1xDROY, 5xAP1, 1xAP2, 7xPB; 7xst, 8int, 2td, 53pd, 16ff, 5fr, 20.5sk, 732/950tkl, 60tfl, 41qbh; 5xSF, 2xF

  2. James Harrison: 2002-2017, 14-PIT, 1-CIN, 1-NE; 2xSBC(2-2), 1xDPOY, 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 5xPB; 7xst, 8int, 24pd, 34ff, 9fr, 1td, 84.5sk, 573/765tkl, 128tfl, 150qbh, 1sfty; 2xSF

  3. NaVorro Bowman: 2010-2017, 8-SF, 1-LV; 0xSBC(0-1), 4xAP1, 3xPB; 5xst, 5int, 1td, 30pd, 9ff, 6fr, 14.0sk, 585/798tkl, 48tfl, 30qbh

  4. Hardy Nickerson: 1987-2002, 7-TB, 6-PIT, 2-JAX, 1-GB; 1xAD2, 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 5xPB; 14xst, 12int, 24pd, 19ff, 14fr, 21.0sk, 1584tkl, 16tfl

  5. Lance Briggs: 2003-2014, 12-CHI; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 7xPB; 12xst, 16int, 5td, 84pd, 16ff, 7fr, 1td, 15.0sk, 936/1174tkl, 97tfl, 24qbh

  6. Cornelius Bennett: 1987-2000, 9-BUF, 3-ATL, 2-IND; 0xSBC(0-5), 1xAD2, 1xAP1, 5xPB; 13xst, 7int, 1td, 9pd, 31ff, 27fr, 1td, 71.5sk, 1190tkl, 16tfl; 1xSF

  7. Joey Porter: 1999-2011, 8-PIT, 3-MIA, 2-ARI; 1xSBC(1-0), 1xAD2, 1xAP1, 3xAP2, 4xPB; 11xst, 12int, 1td, 49pd, 25ff, 10fr, 2td, 98.0sk, 498/665tkl, 124tfl, 72qbh, 1sfty

  8. Bryce Paup: 1990-2000, 5-GB, 3-BUF, 2-JAX, 1-MIN; 1xDPOY, 1xAP1, 4xPB; 8xst, 6int, 1td, 3pd, 15ff, 6fr, 75.0sk, 545tkl, 7tfl, 1sfty

CB (Ken Riley: 2023, 1969-1983, 15-CIN; 0xSBC(0-1), 1xAP1, 2xAP2; 15xst, 65int, 5td, 18fr)

  1. Eric Allen: 1988-2001, 7-PHI, 4-NO, 3-LV; 1xAP1, 2xAP2, 6xPB; 14xst, 54int, 8td, 40pd, 6ff, 7fr, 1td, 3.0sk, 789tkl, 57tfl, 1qbh; 4xSF

  2. Sam Madison: 1997-2008, 9-MIA, 3-NYG; 1xSBC(1-0), 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 4xPB; 10xst, 38int, 2td, 103pd, 10ff, 6fr, 1td, 2.0sk, 377/471tkl, 22tfl, 2qbh, 1sfty

S (John Lynch: 2021; 1993-2007, 11-TB, 4-DEN; 1xSBC(1-0), 2xAP1, 2xAP2, 9xPB; 12xst, 26int, 68pd, 16ff, 9fr, 13.0sk, 736/1054tkl, 28tfl, 4qbh)

  1. Darren Sharper: 1997-2010, 8-GB, 4-MIN, 2-NO; 1xSBC(1-0), 1xAD2, 2xAP1, 4xAP2, 5xPB; 12xst, 63int, 11td, 123pd, 8ff, 8fr, 2td, 7.5sk, 731/942tkl, 28tfl, 3qbh (but he's a convicted serial rapist so I guess you can say this one doesn't count)