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These countries tried everything from cash to patriotic calls to duty to reverse drastically declining birth rates. It didn’t work.

If history is any guide, none of this will work: No matter what governments do to convince them to procreate, people around the world are having fewer and fewer kids.

In the US, the birth rate has been falling since the Great Recession, dropping almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022. Today, the average American woman has about 1.6 children, down from three in 1950, and significantly below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children needed to sustain a stable population. In Italy, 12 people now die for every seven babies born. In South Korea, the birth rate is down to 0.81 children per woman. In China, after decades of a strictly enforced one-child policy, the population is shrinking for the first time since the 1960s. In Taiwan, the birth rate stands at 0.87.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Stop saying that. Not having kids is not selfish. Having kids is selfish. You create a human just because you want to own one.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Or you know.... You like children, want to continue the species, and have the biological drive to procreate.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 9 months ago

You think having kids because you like them isn't a selfish reason? Or that having them to continue the species isn't a supremely arrogant reason?

I can't speak to the biological drive, because I have no idea what it feels like.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 9 months ago

You might have a drive to procreate but not using contraception is a choice for most people.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

So you're a mouse.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

God forbid you do something crazy like intend for humanity to have a future. Fucking wild man, who does that?

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

Man anti-natalists are a special breed of crazy.