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With an all-time great like Jokic, an nba personality that vaguely reminds me of Tim Duncan already, plus outstanding help from skilled players like Murray and Porter Jr. just like how Tim Duncan had Tony Parker and Manu. It sounds like a recipe for a dynasty. Thoughts?

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[–] Winlessta08@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Crazy take I think Parker and Ginobli were leagues above Murray and Porter Jr so far.

Murray has playoff sparks that shows he can reach the spurs levels but he needs Jokic on the floor to do it.

Thinking basketball had a nice video on Ginobli that makes you feel like as high as he's rated today he still might be underrated

[–] greenwhitehell@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not sure Parker ever put together a playoff run like Murray's last 2 (especially the last one). In the RS you're right, but in terms of playoff impact neither Parker nor Ginobli are leagues above Murray

[–] rockethead23@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Are you 8 years old he won finals mvp in 07

[–] FKJVMMP@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Parker was a Finals MVP over 30 year old Tim Duncan. Counting stats aren’t as good, because a) it was 2007 and b) Spurs were always about team ball so nobody put up big numbers even by 00s standards, but he was amazing in that series.

[–] panchettaz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to count stats to see how amazing Jamal Murray was in the recent playoffs either - stats confirm it, but he was doing everything out there

[–] mohiben@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

First time two players on the same team scored a triple double in a playoff game

[–] greenwhitehell@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

He had a better Finals run than Jamal, sure. Playoff run I'm not too sure, even taking your stat inflation argument. Jamal was better across the board - above him in every single counting stat+TS% and the team ball argument could just as easily apply to Denver

[–] Yupadej@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Murray turns into prime Steph in the playoffs so it's fine