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In one of the most iconic moments coming out of World Youth Day, Pope Francis called on the hundreds of thousands gathered before him to yell back at him that the Catholic Church is for "todos, todos, todos" -- everyone, everyone, everyone.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Then I assume he's going to apologize for this?

Roman Catholic Church Pours $2 Million into Discrimination against LGBT Americans - November 15, 2012

The Roman Catholic Church hierarchy funneled $2 million into entirely unsuccessful efforts to advance discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people in the four marriage ballot states of Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, and Washington this election cycle. An updated HRC report, available at www.hrc.org/catholicreport, provides a snapshot of just how much money the Church, along with its close ally the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), poured into campaigns aimed solely at depriving LGBT Americans of dignity and respect.

Good PR move to distract where the diacese spend their cash. We know what the Catholic Church values based on the money they spend trying to influence politics; hey, just like the time they spent millions trying to prevent the statute of limitations from being expanded for child sexual abuse...

[–] Muzugu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That article is over a decade old, and from when the church was led by a different pope. I have no love for the Catholic Church, but try to engage in good faith.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I always love how the Catholic Church gets to have it both ways: they simultaneously are bound by centuries of traditions that they revere, but are also not to held accountable for the damage that they've done merely a decade ago.

Have they apologized for trying to force their morally backwards religion on people? Have they funded lobbies to expand LGBTQ rights to reverse some of the damage they've done historically?

Do you think that the Cardinals who run the diaces who donated thone millions of dollars have reformed their ideas regarding same-sex marriage?

All the Catholic Church has done is to dress up their bigotry as inclusion, and credulous news agencies do their PR for them about how much the Catholic Church has changed to be more inclusive.

So I ask you, if you think they've changed: what exactly have they changed? They still lobby the government to impose their religion on the rest of us, they still believe that "acting on" gay urges is evil and weak, and they are still hiding child predators. The Catholic Church is an enormous institution, and merely replacing the CEO doesn't mean that every franchise is magically aligned with his new vision.

So how is pointing out their actual values (a particularly ironic turn of phrase) "bad faith?"

They've shown their contempt for sexual minorities for centuries; I think we should believe them.