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[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't bomb civilians. Don't bomb Palestinians. Don't bomb Israelis. Don't kill children. Don't kill. Don't kidnap people.

Is that hard? I mean sure the world might be more complicated but regardless of that the above seems like a very consistent and simple starting point of an opinion? It seems easier to start with "don't bomb people" as a starting point than "don't bomb some people" as a starting point.

[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t bomb civilians. Don’t bomb Palestinians

That basically one thing. You can't just "stop", cause Palestinian civilians = Hamas. There a cult of people that supports killing jews, called islam, and most "civilians" into it. The one who was disagree - flee to nearby countries or died from hands of Hamas. How simple is that? You can't just leave Hamas "as is", cause they will simply start over again, by bombing jews, so, what your proposal? Kill all jews instead or help Hamas by gatekeeping Israel? There is no simple solution. Also, when russia started genocide in Ukraine, everyone was against that, but when Hamas attacked Israel and did genocide of jews, everyone supports that. Fuck is that trickery?

[–] worldsayshi@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Things that should be relatively non controversial:

  • There's no simple solution.

  • Palestinian civilians is not equal to Hamas.

  • Hamas is a terror organisation

  • Israel army is currently exercising too much violence on Palestinians

  • Israel clearly has the military advantage.

More vague points:

That puts most of the responsibility of how the situation develops in Israel hands. They can't change the minds of the Palestinians. But they have the power to minimise total harm. They should be able to keep a lower rate of casualties on the Palestinian side without significantly increasing casualties on the Israeli side? No?

[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Palestinian civilians is not equal to Hamas.

So, okay, now there a video how Palestinians "civilians" gave up on resistance and hand over their weapons. Now what?

Also, about "too much violence on Palestinians", you need to watch this first and claim that you will not do same. . NSFW