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[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Supporting Palestine and Palestinians is not the same as supporting Hamas. I can’t believe we have to keep repeating that.

You don't need to repeat that, this statement will not be true cause of that anyway. Yes, supporting Palestinians same thing as supporting Hamas. Why? Cause when your wife was decapitated and under your house someone digging a tunnel to shot rockets in near country, you have a choice: alert foreigner government about future attack with profs that basically seen from your window or at least leave with you family, or do nothing and keep working and doing "business as usual" thing. Why regular russians was so easily blamed for war in ukraine, but people literally involved in genocide of jews in Israel = no? This double standarts is confusing. You can't just say, that "palestinians civilians did nothing wrong" and then proceed with blaming russians about war in ukraine. Be consecutive! Palestinians murders is bad! Killing russians in Ukraine is bad! Genocide is good! Horay!

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What you described there is a war crime: International humanitarian law posits that no person may be punished for acts that he or she did not commit.

Article 33 - Individual responsibility, collective penalties, pillage, reprisals No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited. Pillage is prohibited. Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited.

Source: Geneva Conventions (GCIV Art. 33).

[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Okay, let's pretend we living in the world of Equestria with pinky ponies all around and Geneva Convention really works and stopping russians from torture civilians and cut their dicks in Bakhmut. Also, we need to pretend that Hamas joined as Geneva Convention member. So, how Geneva Conventions threat a man that claimed to be civilian but actively participates in combat?

An exception to this rule is the levée en masse, whereby the inhabitants of a country which has not yet been occupied, on the approach of the enemy, spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading troops without having time to form themselves into an armed force. Such persons are considered combatants if they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war (see commentary to Rule 106).

Also, let's see what Hamas should do about hostages:

The taking of hostages is prohibited.

Oh boy.

Jokes aside, again, as I said: everyone who wanted to leave is already flee. Not like you see how your neighborhood stoking up weapons and rockets to strike nearby country and be like "I'm sure that just to made fireworks!". Do you think after russia invaded Ukraine, everyone just stayed at home and just ignored massacre on the streets? Nope sir, the one who was against that invasion just flee from occupied land, only one who couldn't find strength to leave own home and the people, who praised invasion stayed that day. Well, both groups was tortured anyway, but that beside the point. My point is, there almost no "civilians" left. There combatans and some that described by Geneva Conventions as "non combatants". But no civilians. Prove me wrong tho.