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Nah. High lead levels aren't a "super rare, could only be intentional" type occurrence. We just don't test that much until people get sick. Babies and toddlers get sick a whole lot faster than adults. You might be eating things with higher than acceptable amounts of lead and not realize for decades.
Okay so I don't understand what you're arguing or why. Seems like you're saying there's high levels of lead in lots of food, but we don't know because we don't test... so how do you know if we don't test?
I'm saying that levels of lead found in the cinnamon applesauce probably don't occur just by chance, cuz they were so high they were causing symptoms in children which triggered a recall. That suggests there was more lead present than what naturally occurs. So where'd it come from? The FDA is pretty sure it's the cinnamon that came from Ecuador, so here are some possibilities:
The cinnamon was grown in a lead mine or something and had extremely high lead levels. Kind of doubt that.
Introduced during processing by machinery containing lead in its metal components. Possible.
Deliberately added to the cinnamon to alter its color or increase its weight. Also possible.
I'm guessing it's either #2 or #3.
I'm arguing this premise is incorrect:
And going all conspiracy theorist on this is irresponsible until FDA has a chance to investigate.
If you think I'm acting like a conspiracy theorist, then you're cognitively impaired or trolling. Stop eating lead laced food?
Do you think theorizing that a conspiracy took place isn't a conspiracy theory? Unless you think just one person secretly added lead.
lol. Okay candybrie, I'm going to break down what could have happened, again.
the cinnamon used in the applesauce was somehow grown in soil that contained a ridiculous amount of lead. No conspiracy, just human error.
Equipment used in the processing of the cinnamon contained lead. That lead accidentally got into the processed cinnamon. No conspiracy, just human error.
Lead was deliberately added to the cinnamon to either increase its weight or alter its color. That's a thing that happens. Possibly one person, maybe more were involved, but it's not what most people would consider a conspiracy. It's just people being lazy, unscrupulous, or greedy.
Don't take my word for it, here's a link to a peer reviewed paper measuring lead levels in spices:
A conspiracy is a two or more people agreeing to commit a crime and then committing that crime. That's all. It's not super deep. Number 3 sounds at very least to be fraud.
So ummm, you should probably see this: https://lemmy.world/post/9621277