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New York state will create a commission tasked with considering reparations to address the persistent, harmful effects of slavery in the state, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday.

It comes at a time when many states and towns throughout the United States attempt to figure out how to best reckon with the country’s dark past, and follows in the footsteps of similar task forces established in California and Illinois.

“In New York, we like to think we’re on the right side of this. Slavery was a product of the South, the Confederacy,” Hochul, a Democrat, said at the bill signing ceremony in New York City. “What is hard to embrace is the fact that our state also flourished from that slavery. It’s not a beautiful story, but indeed it is the truth.”

The law, which was passed by state lawmakers in June, says the commission will examine the institution of slavery, which was fully abolished in New York by 1827, and its ongoing impact on Black New Yorkers today.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It may be good politics, but I am critical of it. The victims of American racism were individual human beings. AA does not look at the individual and what harm they suffered, but again, only looks at the color of the skin.

The election of Barack Obama was a great victory for the USA, but also an indictment. He was not born into an African American family, deprived by segregation. (The British occupation of Kenya was brutal, particularly during the last stage - the Mau Mau rebellion, with its 10,000s of dead - when his father came to the US. But I don't know what his family's role was.)

All over the world, we can see that having less educated parents is a burden for the academic success of children. This is completely unrelated to racism. Less educated parents can't help with homework as much, or impart academic knowledge in passing. I can't even imagine what it is like, on top, to have parents/grandparents who have only ever known a good education as something that gets you murdered by white people.

Obama did not have all that ancestral baggage, and he had this brilliant career. That's common for recent African immigrants.

Maybe AA helps the US become a better, stronger nation. But I worry that it may perpetuate damage by still practicing differential treatment, based on assigned racial category. In any case, it does nothing to redress the concrete harm, done to individual human beings.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

AA is a societal remedy to a societal-level injustice. Redlining and biased admissions policies only looked at the color of one’s skin too.

Obama talked about this at length; regardless of his family past he also suffered racism, whether it was trying to get a taxi or how people treated him in the workplace.

Less educated parents creates a cycle of poverty, which is one of the reasons AA is used as a remedy to address the fact that white Americans were given more opportunities including scholarships and housing benefits that were denied to POC.

AA shouldn’t be permanent but we are not past the injustices yet.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

only looked at the color of one’s skin too

Yes, that's one problem I pointed out. It continues that tradition.

What you say about its effects is how it may help the US. It may help American society benefit from talents that would otherwise lay fallow. It also may have other positive effects. If it works as intended, it will benefit the nation by making it richer and stronger.

What it doesn't do is address past injustices. These injustices were countless individual crimes that happened to individual human beings.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It’s impossible to adjudicate every individual injustice by this point, which is why a larger societal-level fix is necessary.