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Americans’ credit card debt levels have just notched a new, but undesirable, milestone: For the first time ever, they’ve surpassed $1 trillion, according to data released Tuesday by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I have never had a credit card. I have no plans to get one. I have no idea what my credit rating is either. And until I have to know, I don't care. I am not in any debt though.

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was like you and got screwed by it. That's the unfortunate part of the system for us. Credit rating isn't rating of trustworthiness, it's a rating of likely-to-take-debt/trustworthiness. Never having credit is often "worse" than bad credit. If you ever do try and take out a loan for a car or a house, you will have fewer and more expensive borrowing options.

The play for people like us is to open exactly 2 sources of credit, use one as autopay for static bills, and automatically pay it every month. Use the other for dynamic expenses, but monitor and pay it off in full whenever it reaches 30% utilization, or 25 days, whichever comes sooner.

One can get the benefits of credit without actually accruing debt. The way you use your cash/debit, you already don't spend money you don't have. Just continue to not spend money you don't have, but get the benefits of the system. Be a "deadbeat" as they call us. Us deadbeats actively cost the system money by never carrying balances that accrue interest.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

when you "have to know" is the worst time to find out that it's not good.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Possibly, but it has not been a problem in my life so far, so either it's good enough that no one cares when it's come up or I'll be in trouble one day, I guess.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

yes that is indeed how you create future problems for yourself.

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but it has not been a problem in my life so far

Ignoring it is a sure fire way to let someone else make it a problem for you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe, but it's worked for 46 years now.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Same. Unless you're buying a house or a new car I haven't run into any issues.

[–] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use my credit card for every purchase I make and get 1.5% cash back. I pay off my balance every month in full to avoid any interest. That 1.5% can add up pretty quickly and it’s basically free money.

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you lose your job though that free money dries up lightning fast

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's free only if you have the ability to fully pay off your card every month, otherwise it is not free due to interest, yes.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

And everything costs 5-10%% than it would without all the cash back and other rewards programs.

[–] soot_guy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Tricky part here is that an easy way of building credit is by use of a credit card. If you can’t buy a house in cash, then obtaining a good mortgage becomes difficult. I’d recommend the happy medium being one of those preloaded credit cards where you pay $1000 up front or what ever and just use that for day to days… being out of debt like you are, though, is one of the most liberating things one can ask for

[–] Spanguin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you treat them like a debit card, there aren't any of these issues. I have a credit card that I use for all everyday expenses. Every month it's paid off so it never acrues interest. My credit score is great and the card offers some other benefits too.

If I lose my job the risk I have would only ever amount to one month of spending, which is easily covered by my emergency fund.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Thing is, by the time you have to know, you'll need to have a history of good credit.

I have one credit card. It's fully paid off every month automatically, because I spend less than I make.