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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 163 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

i remember as a kid it being banged into my head how america was great because it was a giant melting pot.. bring us your poor, tired, etc. the numbers bear out that first generation immigrants work harder, cause less crime than 'natural' citizens.

and its true, immigrants made this country. it is a country of immigrants.. cuz, ya know, mass native population genocide and all.

but here we are.. these conservative fuckwads have somehow convinced everyone the opposite is true.

if youre anti-immigration, youre just racist. thats it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It changed around 2002. It's interesting to me because that was when my "free thinking" parents changed their views.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No it didn't. The US barred Asians from entering for multiple decades. This country has been anti immigrant(anti anyone not white moving here) since it's inception

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This country has been anti immigrant(anti anyone not white moving here) since it's inception

Nah, until 1882, there was literally no restrictions for anyone moving to the US. If you could afford the journey or even successfully stow away on a ship or train or whatever, they'd let you in and let you stay.

When it came to CITIZENSHIP, though, you're right about the criteria being super racist from day one.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I went to the museum at Ellis island last year. It was surreal because here was a purpose built facility for processing immigrants, meanwhile Venezuelans were lined up on the streets in Manhattan waiting to be processed. There were a number of exhibits showing the racist attitudes of the Americans in the 1870s to 1880s demanding a curb on immigration. Was an educational experience.

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those restrictions on non-whites, for starters.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those were originally citizenship restrictions only.

Until 1882, there was no law to keep people of color (or white people, of course) out of the country, even as they were met with tons of discrimination and abuse and no rights.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Right after Sept 11th, 2001, huh

Yeah that makes sense

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

9/11 was a system shock to a lot of folks.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

What first world country isn't the country of immigrants? Look at any successful country in Europe. UK and Ireland especially, would sink to the bottom if not for the cheap labour it got in the 2000s.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

From where I'm sitting, the USA was always a massive piece of shit on racial and gender prejudice issues. I guess some of us must have been more fortunate with the Independent School District Lottery.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Ever see Gangs of New York?

Yeah...