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A year after she was shot by her 6-year-old student in a Virginia classroom, former teacher Abby Zwerner said she still worries about the other children who saw it happen, and wonders how they’re faring.

Wounded by a bullet that struck her hand and chest and punctured a lung, Zwerner rushed the other first-graders into the hallway before she collapsed in the elementary school’s office.

“I hope that they are enjoying school, enjoying their second-grade year,” Zwerner, 26, told The Virginian-Pilot newspaper. “I hope that they’re still kind to their classmates, kind to teachers. I hope that they still have happiness, and that their happiness wasn’t completely stripped away.”

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

LiberalGunNut™ here! Not too many ideas out there for laws that actually make a difference and will stand up to 2A challenges, but I got one.

Drop the fucking hammer on anyone who allows a non-authorized person access to their weapon(s). No idea how this actually looks as a law, but I'm sure you get my drift.

I've heard arguments pro and con regarding safe storage. For example; I'm not one to legislatively tax poor people for exercising a right. But lockboxes are plenty cheap enough. If you want to step up from a cheap lock-box, $80 and an hour of work, and you got a Harbor Freight wall safe installed. (They're great BTW!)

And such a law doesn't need to specify containment! "Anyone gets hold of your gun, concrete and steel box for you." Bet people would pay fucking attention!

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

🥱

Reducing the disparity in wealth has a direct impact on the amount of people who want to lash out at society by killing indiscriminately.

Give people reasons to live so they don't make up reasons to kill.

Unfortunately, liberals and conservatives love to unite on greed because they're both in on it.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My dude I don’t think the six year old that shot her was economically anxious

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] deft@ttrpg.network -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago
[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What data are you using to back this claim? Most school shooters seem to come from middle class to rather affluent families. How do you guys manage to pivot every thing to class warfare?

I was walking down the street and I stubbed my toe: "Ow how can the proletariat suffer the injustice of tripping over uneven sidewalks while the rich continue to exploit us!"

This is like a meme level comment at this point.

Edit: to everyone downvoting: Prove me wrong. Give me the data. Show me that income or class had a considerable impact on these active school shooters.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The closer we get to the root of the problem, the more people we'll find that contribute to it and the fewer we'll find that are willing to acknowledge it.

I'm sorry you're too innocent or delusional to believe that money doesn't impact nearly every aspect of our lives.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There've been a bunch of initiatives the past couple years (since Biden took office) to provide free gun locks and lock boxes. There's really no excuse not to have one.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I have not heard of this at all.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'd like to know more!

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Punishment for irresponsible gun storage wouldn't make a dent. All it would achieve is putting more people in jail, not actually preventing mass shootings.

Ban semi auto guns. Bolt / lever / pump / hammer (etc) action weapons only. That is plenty for hunting and defense scenarios.

Realistically, it'd have to be a long, multi phase roll out of voluntary surrenders, followed by crime enhancements, followed by open warrants.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

and will stand up to 2A challenges

You seem to have dropped this.

And who do you imagine is voluntarily surrendering? Not sure what you propose here.

followed by crime enhancements, followed by open warrants

Doesn't that contradict your second sentence?

As far as bans go, some people obey the law, some do not. There's also this.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of people on the left would voluntarily surrender their guns.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All of your questions are addressed my first, succinct, comment. There's no point in arguing with you if you're going to ignore the points, I know where this goes.

Edit - ok, you had one point that wasn't addressed. 2A. You have the right to bear arms. Multi action guns are arms. Just like we don't have a right to full automatic guns, we don't have a constitutional right to semi automatic guns.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That may or may not work while not reducing rights. Hmm... I'd give it a go.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

"But I need my gun at the ready at all times! Plus there is one time I saw the lockpicking lawyer pick a gun lock and I'm certain all thieves have seen it."

I've seen that shit argued soooo many times. Unless it is 100% failsafe, there are still a stupid amount of people that will think it's useless. It reminds me of people who do not wear seat belts because they heard about one person who was saved because they were thrown from a car. They will use that 0.01% of times to curse their own irresponsible behavior.