this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2024
111 points (88.3% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35703 readers
4550 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

All our coffee is served with two shots by default. We're not some fancy coffee shop, just a motorway service station that makes coffee to go. We have some regulars who order a decaff with an extra shot. I explain thats going to have three shots total, and they're happy with it.

But I keep thinking, if you have three shots of decaff, isn't that going to be as strong as a normal coffee? Whats the point?

Please forgive my ignorance

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I'm not a coffee drinker, but help me understand, What is a shot? caffeine? If so, wouldn't a decaf "with an extra shot" just be one shot? since originally it would have no caffeine, but they want to add one shot.

[–] m_randall@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It’s a shot of espresso which is only about 2oz (60ml). A normal serving would be one or two shots.

I’m guessing people are ordering a latte or cappuccino or something similar which is milk and coffee. The extra shot will make the drink have a stronger coffee taste.

Edit: here’s more than you ever asked to know about espresso drinks lol:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/44/bc/0d/44bc0d51e616263587e1044d487cf761--espresso-recipes-espresso-drinks.jpg

[–] xionzui@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

A single shot of espresso is only around 20-25ml. A double shot is the most common amount you’ll get when ordering a drink at a coffee shop, and 60ml is on the high end of that. Here’s even more about this topic specifically: https://youtu.be/F4wrUP4c5P4

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t really understand either. Caffeine wise, I’d think decaf + a shot = 1 shot, not 3.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it's being used as a measurement of amount of coffee, not caffeine. Normal size is "two shots" and decaf (normal size, so "two shots") with extra shot (of more decaf) would be "three shots".

At least that's what I was thinking happened. Not sure how it would change the taste or anything. Maybe it is shots of coffee in milk or something?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems like OP is talking about an espresso drink. Yes, that’s typically espresso in water or milk, maybe steamed milk/froth. The decaf would contribute flavor but little caffeine. I’m not sure why OP is confused about this.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I think they were thinking of it in terms of caffeine when those wanting the extra shot were thinking of the flavour.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Caffeine is a colourless, odourless, flavourless alkaloid that is a component of espresso coffee.

If you could magically remove all caffeine without removing anything else, you wouldn't be able to taste the difference.

[–] xionzui@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Is it really flavorless? I’ve always had the impression it adds a bit of a bitter flavor

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it just a component of coffee, not specifically espresso

Yeah. IDK why I said "espresso".

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A 'shot' is a portion in coffee speak, like a shot of vodka is a standard measurement. A flat white has two shots of espresso as standard, for example. Decaf espresso/coffee would be one or two shots of decaf coffee, still won't have any (well, much) caffeine, just makes the flavour stronger.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’m aware of how espresso drinks work. I was picturing the decaf being brewed decaf, not an espresso drink. I guess OP does mean an americano or a cappuccino or something. So in terms of flavor, it contributes, in terms of caffeine, it does not.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So all of this assumes it's being mixed with milk or water, right? Because otherwise having two or three shots wouldn't alter the taste because it would just be more of the same

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there are many types of coffee produced with milk or water, as well as with ice and other ingredients. Some are produced with steamed milk, others with foam, a mixture of the two, one or two shots, in different amounts, with flavoured syrups, ice, or just with a certain amount of water to bulk it out.

You can have a double espresso (two shots only, nothing else), but even that can be short or long, which means there is less or more water used when creating each shot of espresso. Short espressos are popular in Italy, usually cost a euro, and would be taken standing up and finished in a minute or two (or even instantly); the amount would be about the same as an alcoholic shot.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's interesting to me because for me the coffee (not espresso) as is the default, with no added water. So the idea that it's assumed it is mixed threw me off. Here the assumption the coffee is "regular" (drip, french press, basically not espresso) and if you want water or milk in it, that's extra thing. Nobody puts in water in that coffe though hah, it's just whether you want milk and sugar.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah that's your kind of standard home or office coffee, not something you'd get in a cafe really (or at least not the main one they would serve).

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here I think it's the typical coffee you'd get if you don't specify anything else. Espresso based fancy milk foam sugary things are getting more popular though.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah if you go to a non-cafe place then that's what you'd get unless they invested in a fancy machine.

Do try a flat white sometime though, or a piccolo latte (no sugar or such heathenly things though!).

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've tried a "flat white" but it mostly tasted like regular coffee with milk imo. If a bit milkier than I'm used to.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ensure it has two shots, may have to reduce the milk or get a piccolo instead. It's quite hit and miss here.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

You can make espresso with decaf coffee beans.

I wonder if they make their coffee more like an Americano, so you do a shot (or two, or three) or espresso and then add some hot water. This takes the traditional espresso shot, which is more concentrated, and changes it to a more drip/filter style taste.