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Sanders warns Biden: address working-class fears or risk losing to demogogue
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2024
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Makes me wonder what might have happened if the DNC hadn't f**ked Bernie over, twice.
Yeah, the DNC f-ing unknowingly gave that blowhard dictator his platform.
Unknowingly? They would rather have Trump than Bernie ruining their two party corruption. The DNC won in 2016.
Very explicitly knowingly *
*FTFY.
Democrats will suspend the constitution THEMSELVES before they go against our corporate overlords and run someone like Bernie.
They didnt care. DNC would rather lose with Hillary/Biden then win with Bernie.
The DNC loves losing. Losing means they can endlessly fundraise and not have to actually govern!
It hurts me to think how much better a position we would be in right now if they hadn't worked so hard to marginalize him.
Imagine how many lives would have been saved on just the pandemic disinformation alone.
And Bernie would have absolutely demolished cheetolini in the debates.
I still remember trying to explain to someone back in my reddit days that many media sources played clips of people saying they are voting for Biden in the primaries because they believe Bernie would lose. The only places saying that were the same media sources.
Unfortunately, the owners of this country don't want that.
(NSFW - language)
Which is why I am a very vocal advocate for eating the rich. They can own all they want inside my belly.
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Rich people would be getting richer slower and the world would be a better place.
Maybe he would have lost his aura because he wouldn't have had the means to do what he says should be done.
At this point Bernie's lost at least some of it; I can't disagree with those who've accused him of sheepdogging, although I think he was trying to do the best he could with what he had.
Sanders not burning his own party cost him much of his clout. Frankly they deserved it for what they did to him and his show of weakness backing the warhawk Clinton was awful to see from someone who usually has so much fire.
Bernie's moral code includes supporting his party's "democratic" ways, as anything else would be a coup in its own right.
Even if I believe he's off the mark in doing that, I admire him for it. It's rare to see these days.
Admirable? Blind slavery to a corrupt system? I fail to see what is admirable about not trying to fix a country but instead keeping corruption alive.
What alternative would you propose? Say what you will about Sanders, but he actually wants the Republic to last, imperfect though it may be. Apparently many of his critics prefer a politician who will throw a tantrum if things don't go his way and then try to bring down the whole nation. That reminds me of someone else.
What a brave man supporting genocide and imperialism. The empire must last a 1000 years and nobody should ever try to change it.
Technically it's not his own party since he's an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, but otherwise I know exactly what you mean.
Well progressives are to blame for their incessant whining that any candidate that is not 100% progressive is absolute shit. Progressives are bitching about PEOPLE while corporatists are controlling the narrative about ISSUES.
Progressives have been banging the drum for universal health care (an ISSUE) for years, so far with no luck -- (no) thanks to the corporatists.
And as for Israel (also an ISSUE), don't get me started...
The whole point is that progressives are getting CRUSHED by the corporatists because the whiners can’t stop eating their own.
Well yeah, because the corporatists control the purse strings.
Until progressives learn to play and win the messaging game, we’re wasting our time. But it has to start with positive messaging not negative messaging. Trumpists have that market cornered.
Again, messaging takes money, and that's controlled by the corporate wing of the party.
Progressives are more or less wasting their time if they don't leave the party.
It's not a messaging issue. Boomers are intentionally voting against progressives and leftists in primaries because boomers are selfish pieces of shit who enjoy fucking over anybody younger than 65 years old.
What on earth are you talking about? Progressives and leftists didn't lose the 2020 primaries due to infighting. Having multiple candidates running with similar perspectives is a sign of a healthy movement. I wanted Bernie but I would've happily supported others.
But Boomers couldn't resist the chance to vote against progressive and leftist efforts and since Biden was the only viable procorporate trash candidate they rallied around him.
Fuck the Boomers.