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In an interview with the Guardian from his home base in Burlington, Vermont, Sanders urged the Democratic president to inject more urgency into his bid for re-election. He said that unless the president was more direct in recognising the many crises faced by working-class families his Republican rival would win.

“We’ve got to see the White House move more aggressively on healthcare, on housing, on tax reform, on the high cost of prescription drugs,” Sanders said. “If we can get the president to move in that direction, he will win; if not, he’s going to lose.”

The US senator from Vermont added that he was in contact with the White House pressing that point. “We hope to make clear to the president and his team that they are not going to win this election unless they come up with a progressive agenda that speaks to the needs of the working class of this country.”

Sanders’ warning comes at a critical time in American politics. On Monday, Republicans in Iowa will gather for caucuses that mark the official start of the 2024 presidential election.

Biden faces no serious challenger in the Democratic primaries. But concern is mounting over how he would fare against Trump given a likely rematch between them in November.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 97 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Unless the Trump is held accountable, He will most likely win. People's material needs are important and Dem messaging has basically been hey we showed this graph so you're not struggling and anything popular you want won't happen. But everything bad will happen with the other guy. Being not Trump once again is a dangerous way to win the election. Trump's cultist ass should be getting crushed.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (19 children)

Trump's cultist ass should be getting crushed.

Makes me wonder what might have happened if the DNC hadn't f**ked Bernie over, twice.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, the DNC f-ing unknowingly gave that blowhard dictator his platform.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Unknowingly? They would rather have Trump than Bernie ruining their two party corruption. The DNC won in 2016.

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[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It hurts me to think how much better a position we would be in right now if they hadn't worked so hard to marginalize him.

Imagine how many lives would have been saved on just the pandemic disinformation alone.

And Bernie would have absolutely demolished cheetolini in the debates.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I still remember trying to explain to someone back in my reddit days that many media sources played clips of people saying they are voting for Biden in the primaries because they believe Bernie would lose. The only places saying that were the same media sources.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is why I am a very vocal advocate for eating the rich. They can own all they want inside my belly.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] spider@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Our unofficial forum namesake! :)

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Rich people would be getting richer slower and the world would be a better place.

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[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It still blows my mind he wasn't taken into custody for sedition ON Jan 6th.

I think future historians will point to that as a major turning point in our nation's decline.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Taking a sitting president into custody without impeachment when he is not an immediate threat would be a coup, which I imagine would be worse for democracy, though maybe not for america.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the final outcome of letting donny spray tan go with zero consequences is going to be him winning the last election our country ever has, so pardon me if I don't agree with you that taking a sitting president into custody is more of a problem than a legit dictator being allowed to run for office.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No point worrying about Trump desteoying democracy if you destroy it yourself first. Its not like you can't stop an insurrectionist from running for office legally without violating the constitution and laws by taking him into custody.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

In a less corrupt world I would say that peaceful protests are a legal way to keep him out of office but we all know cop hypocrisy and the right wing media machine will spin it just like they did for all the George Floyd protests.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i think it's more of a milestone. we haven't actually changed trajectory at all.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As someone active in politics since the late 80s, I can say we have certainly lost a number of our civil liberties, fascists feel emboldened enough to go full masks-off on the floor of Congress, and we just had a fucking soft coup attempt, so yea our trajectory has been on the downward side of parabolic since Ragass Reagan was allowed to ooze into the white house.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

can i interest you in some anarchist zines?

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely yes! Though it might be hard to find issues I don't at least have mimeographed copies of.

It's not wise for a government to signal so hard that the choices of the common person are irrelevant. In those times free speech comes in the form of ballistic cocktails.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Back in the day all good anarchist boys and girls had blue ink stained hands and smelled like solvent.

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[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Biden really needs to understand how unpopular he is. Not that he will, but I can dream.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I really don't want another run of Trump pardoning psychopaths and doing what he wants. But democracy is basically in the hands of Dems and they scrap by when it comes to connecting with people or even giving them a vision post beating Trump.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only way Trump is "connecting" with people is by telling them grandiose lies and making impossible promises.

Annoyingly, a shitton of people are willing to go along with those lies without thinking about it or questioning anything.

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That'd be the least of our problems, I think.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure he's unpopular with progressives and the youth.

Most blue voters are older people more interested in the status quo and in any other country with a sane Overton window would be called conservatives.

And the idealism of youth can easily convince them that a 3rd party vote is a meaningful protest against the DNC's lack of progressive action.

[–] time_lord@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By progressive and youth, you mean millennials, right? Who are as old as.... 40.

[–] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

? No?

What even gave you the impression that I made that assumption?

Also: I'm in my late 40s so again, double ?what?

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I have been pre-emptively severely depressed for this.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda crazy since, what will the other wlsode do to help? There is a strong history of actively harming everyone but the ultra rich.

It's like being mad at my boss because he isn't telling me how he's going to help me on my career progression, and deciding I'll switch bosses to a corrupt prison guard instead.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The danger isn't dems voting R.

It's poor turnout.

And when poor turnout happens, Republicans win.

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[–] mockernicholas@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (37 children)

Unfortunately the way I see it is Biden will lose for two reasons:

  1. Hes old af
  2. Inflation

Regardless of policies or how terrible the alternative is. I dont think most people are going to think much past "Things are expensive now, and oh great a super old white dude".

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Love how they can blame inflation on Joe Brandon, but they refused to blame 45 for anything for 4 years.

[–] mockernicholas@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Different types of people. Its a shame Democrats have such an uphill battle to rally around candidates because those voters hold their leaders accountable, almost to a fault. The republican voter base is made of people who are basically in a cult, or are one issue voters.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Love how they can blame inflation on Joe Brandon, but they refused to blame 45 for anything for 4 years.

Because the Dems were not yelling that from the rooftops like they should have been, so perception is set as that it's Biden's fault.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Inflation started under Trump and Trump is just as old

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Inflation started under Trump and Trump is just as old

That's not the perception though.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Why is that the perception?

Hint: Corps are at record high profits as is wealth inequality.

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