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AI cameras being set up on highways to catch drivers who throw trash out of their car windows::The decision to install cameras in UK lay-bys aims to prevent littering but one campaign group described the approach as "meaningless."

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 91 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Gee, I'm sure there aren't any national security ulterior motives...

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Too bad “national security” could also mean “got an abortion”

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

If they can invent a traffic camera that can determine if someone got an abortion, I’d be pretty impressed. Terrified, but impressed.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't believe the United Kingdom has an issue with people getting an abortion. Clearly you didn't read the article or the body of OP's post.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's because they loosely interpret the law so they can get an abortion for "mental health". This makes up roughly 98% of abortions. Someone could decide to challenge it since it's technically illegal from the Offences Against the Person Act 1861

Info taken from here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_Kingdom

[–] wikibot@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

**Abortion in the United Kingdom is de facto available under the terms of the Abortion Act 1967 in Great Britain and the Abortion (Northern Ireland) (No. 2) Regulations 2020 in Northern Ireland. The procurement of an abortion remains a criminal offence in Great Britain under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861, although the Abortion Act provides a legal defence for both the pregnant woman and her doctor in certain cases. Although a number of abortions did take place before the 1967 Act, there have been around 10 million abortions in the United Kingdom. Around 200,000 abortions are carried out in England and Wales each year and just under 14,000 in Scotland; the most common reason cited under the ICD-10 classification system for around 98% of all abortions is "risk to woman's mental health. "Across the United Kingdom, abortion is permitted on the grounds of:

risk to the life of the pregnant woman; preventing grave permanent injury to her physical or mental health; risk of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman or any existing children of her family (up to a term limit of 24 weeks of gestation); or substantial risk that, if the child were born, they would "suffer from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped". The third ground is typically interpreted liberally with regards to mental health to create a de facto elective abortion service; 98% of the approximately quarter-million abortions performed in Great Britain are done so for that reason.**

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I did miss the UK part. Shame on me.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I’m just not convinced that there is one government out there that doesn’t spy on its people one way or another.

They’ll never ever give up the ability to collect intel on its own people, but we can sure put up a fight and hold them off as best we can.

Wonder how the founding fathers would feel about this, but kinda expect just to find out they were doing the same thing but with physical people/spies

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who are the UKs founding fathers? King Arthur and his knights?

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you were going to consider the UK monarchy in it's most recent form, you'd go back to the Norman invasion of 1066 and King William the Conqueror.

Most of the big land owners in the UK to this day can be traced back to the Norman conquest.

If you were going to consider the UK in its modern parliamentary form, you'd go back to the English civil war (1642-1651) where Oliver Cromwell overthrew King Charles I.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I was applying the story to the states who also share a problem in this, sorry for the confusion

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were part of the capitalist class. Aside from being extremely confused about the tech, they'd most likely support it.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

A man in a tower with a spy glass who can remember every location and identity of every person they see. Yeah, they’d eat that shit up.

[–] Derrio@reddthat.com 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Did you read the article at all?

Regardless, this shouldn’t come as a surprise; the UK has been a surveillance state, at a minimum, for decades.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes, and I was asking a tangential question which was most prevalent to my own experiences and living situation.

The states have a very similar problem with law enforcement and placing their own cameras all over too. If anyone needs reference check out these Flock cameras.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Origin of the term Big Brother

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Cameras can already read plates, it's not that difficult via machine learning