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Starting a career has increasingly felt like a right of passage for Gen Z and Millennial workers struggling to adapt to the working week and stand out to their new bosses.

But it looks like those bosses aren’t doing much in return to help their young staffers adjust to corporate life, and it could be having major effects on their company’s output.

Research by the London School of Economics and Protiviti found that friction in the workplace was causing a worrying productivity chasm between bosses and their employees, and it was by far the worst for Gen Z and Millennial workers.

The survey of nearly 1,500 U.K. and U.S. office workers found that a quarter of employees self-reported low productivity in the workplace. More than a third of Gen Z employees reported low productivity, while 30% of Millennials described themselves as unproductive.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 128 points 11 months ago (4 children)

right of passage

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“They’re like, ‘Nah, I’m not feeling it today, I’m gonna come in at 10:30 a.m,’” Foster said of her younger colleagues in an interview with The Guardian.

Every single generation has thought this about the younger generation. Every single one.

In this case, I think the whole issue is exacerbated by the fact that giving sincere effort at work is so clearly a mug's game. It used to be that being disciplined about showing up and doing your job was difficult, but at least there was a reason to do it and develop the skill over time. Now? Unless you have some sort of unusual job where the management gives a shit about you, why would you?

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 78 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hard work gets rewarded with addition work. Im half assing for my own sanity. If I was paid enough to be comfortable things could be different.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I'm in the highest paying workplace for my field in the country and it's still not worth putting in any extra effort.

Capital just fundamentally doesn't understand that monetary incentive has an inverse relationship with performance and that you can't hire 9 Women to have a baby in 1 month.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 39 points 11 months ago

I was late to work last Friday, intentionally, because my cat fell asleep in my lap while I was eating breakfast. That moment meant more to me than making sure I was there in time, no matter what it may have impacted. Working to live, not living to work, is the rallying cry upper management needs to come to terms with.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Every single generation has thought this about the younger generation. Every single one.

I think you’re right. My guess is that as companies get greedier and work offers fewer and fewer benefits, people are less and less willing to work as hard as their parents did. Employers that don’t understand this are either genuinely ignorant or just pretending to be ignorant.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I sincerely doubt the idea that people are working less. I worked at a college with a lot of boomers. Great people, but I was radically more efficient than any one of them. The woman who had my job before (college print shop), would complain about the work load. I only really worked until lunch and caught up on every single thing I needed to do. Watched YouTube and coded the rest of the day. Helps that I had a boss that didn't care as long as I was caught up.

Alas, the whole campus shut down last August.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 11 months ago

Strategic ignorance. You can exert more pressure on someone if you genuinely believe the crazy self-serving things you're telling them with a straight face.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I spent a over a year trying to get a promotion while an ex boss who's team I left was secretly sandbagging me.

I got an offer elsewhere and suddenly leadership asked "what number would keep you". That was exciting until they followed up that raises and promos were frozen so I'd have to wait indefinitely.

I left.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did exactly the same thing early in my career.

  • Yo I'm underpaid, can I have more money?
  • No
  • Yo I found another job, I'm leaving, here's my notice
  • Oh shit, what if we gave you more money?
  • Definitely not, good luck tho
[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That happened to me many moons ago.

"Hey so I've been here a few years and I've learned a lot more and I'm much more productive in my role. I've also learned the business enough that I've applied the skills I brought with me to the point that that's now less than 10% of my workload, having become so efficient with it that you haven't had to fill the other opening you had for my role because I'm handling it all. What do you think my prospects would be for a raise or promotion?"

"Sorry, no budget for a raise this year beyond your 1.3% annual raise (in a year with 4% inflation). And sorry but we can't promote you either. You don't have the skills for the position above yours, and besides, if we promote you out of your role we'll be too under staffed in it."

"So hire someone, let me train them for my role while you train me for the role I could promote to?"

"Nah that's too expensive and we wouldn't likely get the performance from them that we get out of you. Great job by the way. But no, no promotion, no raise."

"Do you think that might change next year? Or like...where do you see my role here in the future?"

"We're really happy with the roles you're in and feel you're well suited to it. And we feel that your pay is in line with the work you're doing, so just keep up the good work."

...so they basically told me that they'd keep overworking me and that I could expect to never get a significant raise or promotion ever again.

Two months later I got a job offer doing less work, work that was much more in line with my skills and preferred work...and a 38% raise. When I gave my notice, immediately they wanted to make a counter offer. I said I'd hear them out but based on our last conversation I doubted they were going to be willing to retain me...but sure I'll listen.

Their offer:

No raise.

I could work a shift of mandatory 9 hour days to make more money (OT was always unlimited and freely available so this was literally just taking away my choice to work OT and forcing me into it).

No promotion.

But they would also start training me to assist another guy in the office with his work. Basically I could work longer hours and have more responsibilities for the same pay.

...and they were surprised when I refused.

They even had the gall to tell me how they felt betrayed that I only gave them 2 weeks notice, rather than agreeing to stay on until they could find my replacement and I could train them. When I pointed out that they literally told me they weren't hiring my replacement as long as I stayed their only response was that they would have if they knew I was going to leave.