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Patients, advocates and researchers welcome regulations but argue rules don’t go nearly far enough to tackle scale of problem

A new set of rules from the Biden administration seeks to rein in private health insurance companies’ use of prior authorization – a byzantine practice that requires people to seek insurance company permission before obtaining medication or having a procedure.

The cost-containment strategy often delays care and forces patients, or their doctors, to navigate opaque and labyrinthine appeals.

The administration’s newly finalized rules will require insurance companies who work in federal programs to speed up the approval process and make decisions within 72 hours for urgent requests. The regulations will also require companies to give a specific reason as to why a request was denied and publicly report denial metrics. The regulations will primarily go into effect in 2026.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 49 points 9 months ago (3 children)

health insurance companies profit can only exist at the cost of human suffering. there is absolutely no way around it.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Government run single payor is a way around it. I will cackle like a supervillain the day all these leeches lose their bullshit jobs.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Sure, because there job is to ease the monetary burden of suffering events. That doesn't mean they have to act like they do.

The real problem in the US is most people are not the customer for their health insurance - their employer is. In theory I can buy heath insurance from someplace other than my company, but I'm throwing away $1000/month (more or less - it is hard to find the real number) that I'd have to find if I went elsewhere. That means either insurance I get on my own is worse than what I have, or I have a lot less money for other things.

Which is why I've long said that to solve the US problems we need to remove the tax breaks for company sponsored health insurance. Once that happens I can actually decide which insurance company is the best for me.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, because there job is to ease the monetary burden of suffering events.

Their job is to extract profits from people who need healthcare, and ease the monetary burden on the business by denying as many claims as possible to increase profits. Preventative care would benefit them in the long run along with the population that they 'serve', but short term profits don't care about the long term.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

people switch insurance when they switch jobs so the math is deny and let it' be another insurance company's problem

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You might know this, just adding it as context.

Prior to Obamacare insurance companies would deny things like cancer when you switched insurances by calling it a 'preexisting condition'. As in you had cancer before signing up for their insurance.

Companies loved this because it made their employees afraid to leave because their current insurance might cover their treatments, but switching jobs most likely mean that their new insurance wouldn't.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

The requirement to honor a "Certificate of Credible Coverage" with like a 30-day gap was a fucking godsend, and even then, health plans still didn't have to cover any minimum set of services, medications, procedures, etc. like they do under the ACA. Insurance providers were free to just be like, "No, we don't cover chemo at all, period, fuck off." But more common, by far, was simply not covering prescriptions. Like, at all. You go to the doctor, get fixed up, and here's to hoping the meds they want to give you are generic, because you're paying out of pocket.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's the persistent lie of the free market.

Yes, in theory if health insurance were a transparent, understandable product that you could easily switch with another one as an individual based on your needs and costs, market competition would optimize that product rapidly for service and cost.

But every single thing about that theory is wrong.

  1. It's an intensely opaque process. You have no real way to know what the costs are going to be, what your needs will be, what your options will be. You can't even know what a doctor's appointment will cost under healthcare until you get the bill, sometimes a full year later (at least in my experience. Nothing about healthcare costs are understandable even to someone with an advanced medical degree. The layperson has no hope.

  2. You also cannot easily switch it with another product. Open enrollment and contracts severely limit you. There's only fixed, stressful windows where you can change it -- and even then, you're back to point 1. What is the difference between the two plans in actual practice? It's all just gambling.

  3. As you already observed, if your employer offers healthcare, you basically have no choice but to use that product because the subsidies are so intense. You are not an individual. The individual plans suck, are intensely expensive, and usually both across-the-board. The ONLY affordable option for the average person is the employer-offered product, so your choices are severely limited.

And it go this way because the most powerful agents in this system are not individuals.

With home/auto insurance, basically everything gets driven to a commodity product because all costs and risks are pretty uniform and predictable. That's why there is vanishingly little difference in the core products being offered by these kinds of insurance companies, and why the idea that switching your plan is sure to save you gobs of money is... improbable, outside of just periodic renegotiation of rates.

With health, the costs and risks are WILDLY unpredictable. The difference between an "expensive" customer and a cheap one is many, many orders of magnitude.

So naturally, risk must get hedged. The system's need for efficiency is going to try and package people together, just like any other high-risk, low-reward financial product. The need to group people is obvious, so we made it mandatory for employers to provide insurance as a weird workaround to the logical thing of government-run insurance. Now the customers are primarily employers who have TOTALLY different needs and desires from cheap, high-quality healthcare service. The free market will now do its work and optimize based on supply and demand. The efficiency gains will benefit the vendors (insurance companies) and the customers (employers). Individuals are not benefiting from market forces at all.

Free markets are great systems where they apply. They're really good for rapidly assembling efficient systems to get products to customers. But they only work where they work. The persistent lie of the free market is that EVERY problem can be solved with a free market. Nope. Only certain problems can. And where free markets don't work, that typically means you have need of government to step in instead.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why enrollment periods are a thing and I'm just assuming it's just an excuse to screw us

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

With group policies, it means that the insurance companies can do their actuarial work on the entire group in aggregate without having to have considerations about prorating based on certain individuals entering or leaving the policy throughout the year.

At least ostensibly. I doubt this actually happens. It's mostly just a way to limit administrative overhead for both the insurance companies and the employers.

Don't think for a moment that employers don't like the whole open enrollment system too. Even if they CLAIM it is a PITA, it lets them only have to deal with this work for newly-qualified employees, separations, and otherwise only once a year.

Either way, it's ~~of no benefit~~ only harmful to the actual consumers of the insurance. But since individuals aren't the customers, that doesn't matter.

[–] djehuti@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

Which is why I've long said that to solve the US problems we need to remove the tax breaks for company sponsored health insurance. Once that happens I can actually decide which insurance company is the best for me.

That will never happen. Healthcare being tied to employment is what keeps people from quitting shit jobs.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Despite this, every time you point it out, people come out of the weeds to defend health insurance.