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Ex-CIA software engineer sentenced to 40 years for giving secrets to WikiLeaks
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You brought up gulags first. I was just responding to that.
Oh, then do you want to talk about how this country genocided the Native population from coast to coast? Do you want to talk about the reservation system, which inspired the Nazi concentration camps? Do you want to talk about the Trail of Tears and the Indian Wars and the French-American wars? Do you want to talk about the mountain of corpses from settler-colonialism which absolutely dwarfs anything the USSR ever did? Millions and millions dead, and though small pox killed the majority the United States is directly responsible for unimaginable horror. Do you want to talk about the scalp trade? Do you want to talk about the US Army eradicating the buffalo to starve the Natives? Do you want to talk about all the Native women that were kidnapped and raped and the reason so many white people in America have 1/8th Native ancestry? Holy fucking shit, talking about this country's history makes me want to fucking kill myself. You want to talk about why I have Native ancestry on both sides of my family and have lily white skin despite that? How my ancestors were kidnapped and raped by settlers to breed the savagery out of them? Had their religion, their language, their entire way of life stolen from them.
I can't continue this conversation. Just revisiting the history for the argument- I'm done. Leave me alone.
Yeah, sure, by all means -- let's do it. But only under the pretext that we can go further back in Russian history from the Circassian Genocide to the Red Terror to Ivan the Terrible and his Massacre of Novgorod, slavery in Russia, etc.. There's a lot more history to Russia than the United States, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say good luck with going down that rabbit hole as though it will benefit your position.
What I will say is that everything you mentioned I find reprehensible, too; but while I do believe the US has made clear progress since then and into the modern day, it seems quite evident that Russia is going the complete opposite direction and backpedaling as quickly as it can back to the USSR days.
I'd further bet money that if we polled a large swath of people, they would rather face a courtroom or imprisonment in the US than Russia. I know I would.