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President Biden vowed on Monday to veto a House Republican bill that would provide $17.6 billion in aid to Israel, calling it a “cynical political maneuver” intended to hurt the chances of passage for broader legislation that would provide money for Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan and the U.S. border.

House Republicans fiercely oppose the larger bill, which was unveiled by a small, bipartisan group of senators over the weekend. It calls for $118.3 billion in spending and would overhaul some of the nation’s immigration laws to deal with recent surges of migrants at the southern border.

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[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

According to these statistics, the same thing happens every year. If you look at the previous years they all start to go up in January then peak around May and start to decline after that. So what's the big deal if this happens every year? It's to be expected.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The conservatives have been trotting out the "southern border crisis" red herring for so long that The Democrats were the first party to do it in the US. They keep doing it because it works. Those of us that live next to the border, like I do, can tell everyone back east that there's no problem, but if one racist asshole starts yelling, there's a whole bunch of racist assholes that live 2000 miles away that get scared and riled up.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

what conservatives are upset about is often legal migrants and sometimes tourists. Its more transparent when cons talk about black people as "black culture". They say its the "illegals" they're worried about, but I doubt any rich republican employs less than 6 "Illegals" because I haven't met a rich person that paid a fair wage. Its always been unserious.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The real problem is your deranged government officials bussing them all over the god damn US. Not that we can control your idiots but our idiots need to respond in kind. That is recieving them. Providing humane care and shelter. Then funding legal representation to sue the shit out of the people who sent them there.

Using human lives as a political hot potato is fucking despicable.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I live in California. Our government is receiving busses from everywhere.

I agree that Greg Abbot should be arrested on human trafficking charges.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sucks that it is happening. The second we put those people on a bus America has an obligation to them as the people who have purposefully done them harm. They aren't just migrants anymore they are victims.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

So in your estimation what do we owe them before they're put on busses?

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah and California already has a border with Mexico, so it’s not like “sharing the burden” is a legitimate argument. Texas just wants to stick its thumb in California’s eye.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh Texas hasn't sent undocumented immigrants to us. They've sent US citizens, that are experiencing homelessness.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, because Texas, where housing is supposedly cheap, doesn’t have enough housing for everyone? Texas, where the taxes are low and there aren’t adequate public services, can’t provide for their own homeless population? Texas, where teen girls are forced into childbirth, can’t offer support the underprivileged children produced by this policy?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, believe me, I have no love for Texas. I just didn't want to accidentally spread misinformation

[–] kaputt@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, using human lives as a political hot potato is despicable. However, the policy it implies (sharing the burden of caring for immigrants) is actually quite reasonable, and already policy in places like Germany.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im betting German policy is a bit more involved than buying them a bus ticket and forcibly making sure they don't miss that bus.

[–] kaputt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So lawmakers have their work cut out for them.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Too bad the lawmakers over here are agenda driven puppets.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Looking at the graph, it's well over 3x what it was in 2021..seems pretty obvious to me why this might be concerning.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

No shit it was lower during COVID

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

During Covid the government enacted title 42 and didn't allow any migrants entry to mitigate the spread of covid. Since covid is over they rescinded title 42, now all the asylum seekers waiting at the boarder are crossing as they would have just been turned away before. This was a predictable outcome and next year the numbers will drop back down.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

An interesting point and I would be curious to see if it would pan out.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

What do you make of people coming from continents besides South America? Do we owe it to Russian or Chinese citizens to offer them asylum? From my perspective asylum is something you offer your direct neighbors who are fleeing threats on their lives. Offering asylum to literally any citizen of the world seems a bit extreme. If someone in China fears for their life, certainly there are closer and more accessible countries they can flee to.