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It's not that I don't want to look at them, it's that I guarantee you that most people wouldn't want to watch people having sex in public.
Shouldn't a general consensus on such things matter?
Also, are you really complaining about not being able to take a shit on the sidewalk? Can you really not think of any reasons apart from people not wanting to see it why that might not be a good thing? You know, like not creating biohazards?
I mean, if I can take a shit on a sidewalk, and still use a doggy bag to pick it up afterwards and throw it out, what's the holdup, here?
I don't necessarily think that public sentiment shouldn't be held to account here, but I also think, yeah maybe it just doesn't matter, the general public, if you aggregated it all, holds some kind of stupid and unjustified opinions about things, I'm sure.
Throughout human history, the general consensus of the public is what determined what is and is not acceptable in the public square. Why should it be any different now?
Cause I am the captain now.
No, but to me it's less about like, historical precedent, and just more whether or not what we're doing makes any sense. I dunno, I think diogenes was cool, but then also I might cite like, you know, how the greeks would let people shit in the street and piss everywhere and just had a shit ton of graffiti and people having sex in public and stuff, if I wanted to cite a counterargument, or if I wanted an example of how kind of, subject to change, societal standards for these kinds of things are. Formerly rural, rapidly urbanizing modern indian cities, might be another example.
I would like my standards of what is and isn't publicly acceptable in the public square to be based on more than just like, the vibes of what we're all kinda feeling at the time, though, is the larger deal.
At the very least I'd like to try and change public sentiment to something that makes more sense, you know, I'd like to attempt that. Especially if there's some measurable improvement in quality of life for everyone, like homeless people no longer getting arrested for exercising their basic excretory functions in a society which has privatized a good amount of it's public waste management infrastructure. Certainly I would be more empathetic to the counterargument, if we had more regular, more regulated, public bathroom infrastructure. The first step towards such a process is convincing people, getting everyone to change their minds, which is pretty hard to do if everyone just makes appeals to what everyone else already believes.