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[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not a criminal lawsuit I don't think jail was in the cards.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yes, but why no criminal lawsuit as well? Defrauding people for hunderts of millions of dollars sure sounds like a offence to me that could/should lead to criminal charges. I don't get how this would not be obvious now that a judge already has found Trump guilty in a civil lawsuit.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Different standards of evidence, for one. The same evidence may not prove his guilt based on criminal statutes.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's clear. If I understand it correctly, all it would take is a public prosecutor to bring criminal charges. Even if the criminal case against Trump in this fraud case ended in an acquittal, the civil judgment would still stand. I'm just trying to understand what the prosecution's thinking might be. Perhaps that they wanted to wait for the civil trial first in order to have a better chance with the jury in a criminal trial (even if the jury should in theory decide completely impartially, someone who has already been convicted of fraud will probably seem less credible). Another consideration could be related to the strange fact that an acquittal in the US prevents a retrial of the same case (as far as I know). Either way, it's all rather strange, I think.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

It's not the easiest thing to sort out without being able to ask local DAs.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s coming. Dude has like 91 felony counts awaiting trial. First trial happens in March.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aren't all of the 91 pending felony charges about other things?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

It's hard to keep track of all the laws Trump has broken...

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If he doesnt pay is jail on the cards?

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Asset seizure is in the cards