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Alabama IVF ruling puts spotlight on state plans for tax breaks and child support for fetuses (apnews.com)

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The recent Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos are legally protected children is highlighting how support for the idea that a fetus should have the same rights as a person underpins far less dramatic laws and proposals from abortion foes across the U.S.

Lawmakers in at least six states have proposed measures similar to a Georgia law that allows women to seek child support back to conception to cover expenses from a pregnancy. Georgia also allows prospective parents to claim its income tax deduction for dependent children before birth, Utah enacted a pregnancy tax break last year, and variations of those measures are before lawmakers in at least four other states.

Including legislation that makes harming or killing a fetus a crime, several dozen proposals falling under the broad umbrella of promoting fetal personhood are pending in at least 15 states, according to an Associated Press analysis using the bill-tracking software Plural.

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[–] ngdev@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm not a big fan of the idea of abortion

Are you saying you're not a big fan as in you don't think it's a great, fun thing to do? Like "I'm not a big fan of _____ sport"? Or against the idea itself?

I'm assuming that by "the idea of abortion" what you really mean is that you're not a fan of killing babies, which is not what abortions are doing.

And if that's not what you mean then I ask that you clarify what it is you do mean since, sure, you make decent points here but it's important that everyone understands what an abortion is and what is being aborted, which is almost never a living baby.

If I'm being honest, someone who says they don't like the idea of abortion sounds like someone who doesn't know much at all about what one is or what it's removing. Or someone who thinks abortions are for sluts who go out fucking everyone and getting pregnant and just aborting 3rd trimester babies bc they're sluts (I will clarify here that I also don't see a problem with female promiscuity resulting in abortion either)

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't like the fact that abortions are necessary, for any of the very valid reasons to get one, because they can be very traumatic, and underscore a lot of the socioeconomic problems in this country.

I also recognize that, as a man, it isn't my job (/I have no right) to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies. So I'm as pro-choice/anti-judgement as I can get.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Nice, sorry if I came in hot. The issue you have is with health ramifications of the procedure which is also totally sane.