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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It must be that I'm just more optimistic than you. In a world with the type of weapons we possess, "burn it down" is giving up. It's the end. There will be no rebuilding. At least not until the tardigrades develop sentience.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Following the capitalists down their road of burning the world for short term private profit, laughing about rebranding the damage they do as "externalities," is also the end, and if we want the truest of ends for our species with no survivors, save a few self burying sociopaths in bunkers watching the last flickers burn out, then we're doing exactly what we need to be doing and we need only watch them do it.

There is no hope in maintaining the current course. None. We have the technologies to destroy the human habitability of our only world, the short term private profit motive to use them with reckless abandon, and no government or regulator they can't buy standing in their way.

The practicing sociopaths have all the keys. What is the defining characteristic of a sociopath? "Benefitting myself will hurt other people? Pfffff 💵😂🖕"

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No one is saying that complete change isn't necessary. I'm just saying that we shouldn't respond to our cancer diagnosis by shooting ourselves in the head.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Us hemming and hawing about what parts of this system can be rehabilitated just keeps us indolent and divided, keeps the practicing sociopaths in charge, and keeps us literally stepping on the gas to extinction.

If we want our species to one day, long after we're all dead, have a sustainable civilization on this world, we will have to suffer generationally undoing what has been done a piece at a time. Entire Generations will have to suffer to plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in if our species gives shit one about the survival of our species. We need to shrink our global footprint, we need to have our species as a whole more involved in our food production, we need to stop pretending any of us can live above nature in decadence.

But again, we won't, despite our fictions we have no such nobility, so good luck to whatever sapient species comes after us.