Return of the Obra Dinn: Amazing mystery/detective game. However once you've played it, you basically can't play it again as you remember the solution already and the challenge of the game is trivialized.
Chants of Sennaar: Really great game about deciphering languages. However, once again, by playing the game once, you'll remember the languages and the game has no challenge any more.
Outer Wilds: Mystery adventure game. There is some replayability as there are perhaps areas that you can still explore, but largely once you figure out the mystery and complete the game, there's not much more to experience. Some people speedrun the game though.

All of the above games I value extremely highly even though I only played them ~8-10 hours.

Do you have any others?

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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

They don't exactly fit with your theme of short mystery and puzzle games, but based on your initial question most JRPGs and most story-focused games came to mind. Let's go over a few of them I'd recommend to everyone interested in those games:

Persona 5 Royal: It's about a 100h and very story-heavy. There are some twists and turns which keep you engaged and you build relationships with a wide cast of characters. Besides the story and actual combat, there's a ton of side activities, all of which you only do a few times. It's probably my favorite game I'll never replay, because all these things are an absolute slog to play again. The same goes for Persona 4 and maybe 3, haven't played that one.
every Etrian Odyssey: They are old-school dungeon crawlers originally released on the 3/DS and got remakes on steam and the Switch. You draw your own maps of every layer the dungeon has, which is a large puzzle in itself. However, once you know the dungeon, there is literally no point in exploring it again. You know every trap, every worthwhile detour and of course the path to take.
Like a dragon 7/8: They combine an open world with lots of mini-games, funny and/or touching side stories and an epic overarching main story to follow. There are tons of interactions with your companions, all of them interesting. It's just, similarly to Persona 5, all these mini-games and interactions only carry themselves for the short burst you get them in and while they are fresh. Replaying them? It's an absolute slog. You know every punchline, you have optimized most mini-games and probably remember most of the great backstories each character has - you'd be skipping most of the content and the non-optional combat system isn't fun enough to carry itself on its own.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can't you have fun in dungeon crawlers by trying other party compositions? Or is EO badly balanced where you can only succeed with an specific composition?

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You absolutely can! There are classes, subclasses and equipable skills depending on the game. All with different builds. You can win with all of them and swapping around can be fun. However, you can also do this within a single playthrough. At least in my opinion, the dungeon is the main draw here - but of course, as with all games here, there are certainly people who like to replay them.

[–] Phelpssan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'd argue it's the opposite, EO games have so many interesting builds to try that they're among the most replayable dungeon crawler games.

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I love Etrian Odyssey V (especially the music), but I suck at it lol