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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The fact that she continually appears on national headlines and nothing is ever really done about her is starting to say more about us than about her.

When is the last time someone went on national news to announce that people should and will be killed and got away with making those threats?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

What are you suggesting we do about her?

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am not Canadian but sounds like not giving her airtime on news or articles in papers is a start. You are just helping her with free advertising.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

On the other hand, I like to know what kind of nutjobs are running around my country and what they're up to. I know that it gives them fuel, but I also have a legitimate right to know what's going on so that I can respond accordingly.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She's been around for years and has been thriving in QAnon/sovereign citizen/COVID conspiracy theorist circles without the media coverage.

Shining light on this nutjob is not going to make things any worse, and it's about time normies came to understand the crazy in their midst.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aren't there a bunch of charges she could fall under? Incitement, threats?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Possibly? I think most of what she's said has been pretty vague and undirected. If there are charges that would stick I'm happy to see prosecution, I'm just concerned about bending the law to nab someone obviously despicable but technically law abiding.

[–] fixerdude2@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Call in an air strike. But you have a point. We will just be stooping down to their level. They are like very bad neighbors. Give it time, they will stumble. My worry is someone innocent will get hurt in the process.

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

People already are being hurt, people fall into the cult and lose everything, it's sad.

We need a organized mob to run em outta town. The cops can either join the mob or take the day off. No violence, just do what they do and be loud and obnoxious, blockade the sobs till they agree to leave on foot.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well in Canada we don't have unlimited free speech. We used to arrest people for hate speech and terroristic threats, now we let them get away with it as they grow bolder

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Correction, we only let the right get away with it, the left or centre protests and gets beaten back immediately while these guys get away with far worse because the cops are afraid they will get violent.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even if you don't charge her with anything ... just tie her and her people up in court endlessly and let them drain their money in the legal system forever or until they just run out of money.

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

That already is happening, but they just grift harder and people throw money at them.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

I'm sure the people of Richmound, SK have a few ideas.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

It's a fine line. My mother believes Q-adjacent anti-vax bullshit that her manic bipolar boyfriend spoonfeeds her. She's otherwise a competent, independent adult. She knows who the Prime Minister is (and that he's satan incarnate) and pays her bills on time. She believes insane bullshit, but she's not dangerous to herself or others.

She's not forcing anyone to send her money, she's saying crazy things that somehow resonate with people who are to some degree mentally ill but not dangerous, like my mother. People do stupid shit all the time, and if we criminalized that, we'd have to turn all of Alberta into a prison.

As for the threats, she's not a genuine threat, and arresting / locking her up would turn her into a martyr to her followers, which could cause bigger issues. The people who tried to arrest police in Peterborough got what was coming to them, and they were made an example of. Cult leaders don't want their followers getting locked up where they can snap out of it.