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Ryan Gainer, a teen with autism, was a cross-country runner who worked out his frustrations with six-mile runs and dreamed of becoming an engineer.

On Saturday afternoon, the 15-year-old became upset that his parents had demanded he complete his household chores before he would be allowed to play video games or listen to music on his computer, according to DeWitt Lacy, a civil rights attorney representing Ryan’s family.

“He got upset. Any teen would be upset by that,” Lacy said. Some people with autism experience more heightened emotions and on that day Ryan responded by breaking glass on the front door, Lacy said.

A family member called 911 for help, asking dispatch to send deputies to “take him in” because he was breaking glass and hitting his sister, according to a portion of the call released by the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department.

But instead a responding deputy fatally shot the teen, saying he had threatened the deputy with a garden tool.

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[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I have trained in quite a bit of self defence with various different martial arts.

The hoe could be lethal in a very unlucky scenario, as you say, if it struck an exposed neck, or major artery. However it is a very ungainly weapon. It is significantly less dangerous than a knife, for example. Police in the UK are not equipped with guns, yet they deal with knife attacks all the time with just a baton.

It seems to me like the cops in the US are far too reliant on their firearms. Dealing with a poor weapon like a hoe should be quite easy to someone who is suitably trained. With all long weapons like this hoe, baseball bat, etc, anything that needs to be swung, you have to get in close, quickly. Then the assailant cannot hit you anymore. Then it should be quite straightforward to make the situation safe in a non lethal manner. This sort of response is completely ridiculous and should not be normalized.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I have trained in quite a bit of self defence with various different martial arts.

What training and instruction have you had on the laws governing use of force in defense of self or others?

The hoe could be lethal in a very unlucky scenario, as you say, if it struck an exposed neck, or major artery.

Is it reasonably capable of causing "grievous bodily harm"? Being rendered unconscious or otherwise unable to defend oneself, or losing an eye or other significant organ would qualify as "grievous" in these circumstances.

Would a person reasonably fear either "death" or "grievous bodily harm" from an individual wielding a hoe as a weapon?

[–] Deadrek@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unless said person is a small child, very old, or unaware, no I don't think it's reasonable to fear even moderate injury from a teenager welding a hoe.

That's rediculous and cowardly.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Deadrek@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago

sigh now where'd I put that hoe...

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