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As an ex-Mormon, very few of them WANT to go every week, but the conditioning and social stigma are very real.
More than you'd think. Many people base their entire social lives around their church. All of their friends go to the church. They spend a lot of time doing church activities and church events.
And in this very lonely world, even though I'm an atheist, I can't really blame them.
Let’s just make a nice atheist church. “The Church of the Holy Nothing” or whatever.
R'amen!
Why don't we just call it idk.. a community center???
We do already. It's called the gym. Get. Swole. Save. Soul.
Instructions unclear created a multi-religious crew and built a longship gonna go burn down a random coast town.
The leader will be the Seat of the Holy don't-See
I'm not convinced, sounds very much like when they say if you don't follow religious morality, how can you have any morality at all.
There can be, and in many places there is, community, social life, sense of belonging and all that stuff outside of groups of lunatic happy clappers.
Yeah, the high school I went to required at least one semester of religious studies each year, but we had some very cool classes (like a class on cults that included looking at early Christianity through the lens of a cult), and the sociological aspects were massive. In fact, the journals relating to religion with the highest impact factor are all sociological based.
The social component of religion is an underappreciated factor and influential over even the beliefs usually.
All that said, I can't fathom ever obligating myself to a pre-noon social gathering on my weekends by choice. Even Sunday 'brunch' was only ever attended if around 1pm.
If rewriting the rules for church anyways, let's at least add mimosas and have it start way later than it does.
There was partly an attempt at humor in my original comment, but Mormon services and activities in particular are long, boring, and motivate with a stick at least as much as a carrot.
Old Mormon joke:
What’s the fastest way to go though a case of beer?
What’s the best way to keep that case of beer to yourself?
Also an exmo. I don't believe 67% attend weekly. That is massively overstated. I've read estimates from John Dehlin maybe? It's been a while) of 33% activity rate, which means attending once a month.
This is 67% of people who self identified as mormon in their poll. I would believe that number, as most who don't attend wouldn't say they're mormon.
It's all in how the poll is written.
Mormons only have around a 30% activity rate to what their records say or 3 out of 10. Right in line with the rest of them.
So if we assume that 55% of those don't attend do not associate the corrupt organization known as the Mormon church on the poll. Then 67% of the remaining 45% is 30%. The 15% who associate but don't attend are jackmo's.
So, are they lying for the Lord, or maybe the poll is flawed, or the Church reports membership differently than the poll respondents did? Could be any or all, LOL.
For the poll being flawed, it was a telephone poll, and while they've tried to capture more cell phone numbers, you still have to answer and be willing to engage:
Phone interviews are highly skewed towards older people. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the correct number for older generations.
I think the flaw is that "attendance" is self reported. Mormons know they are supposed to attend, and there's no harm is saying that they do to a pollster. There's no way for the pollster to validate that.