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My poor Worf.

Gotta be the GOAT character in all of Trek. The roar pierced my soul.

DS9 has now passed TNG in my heart.

Is this the community for this post?

EDIT: wow guys. I meant E26. 24 episode format got my head mashed. Times Orphan is awful. I meant the finale! (No spoilers!)

Original post title for reference was “ First time DS9... just finished S6E24” — when I meant to reference Tears of the Prophets.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm replying back in public because long private message chains make Lemmy seem more dead than it is.

I 100% believe that the same federation that nearly let Data get disassembled

That was an issue of whether he was a Federation citizen or property. There is no question for Molly. Starfleet correctly ruled he was a citizen because of their principles.

She’s a perfect example of the forbidden experiment, that’s not an opportunity they’ll let go to waste.

There are time travel shenanigans and found orphan children every few weeks in TNG and DS9. The Enterprise was one of a thousand ships. Molly wasn't unique.

Besides, we are shown no evidence in any episode of TNG or DS9 that the Federation would experiment on children. You can't tell me I need therapy for having a negative interpretation of O'brien's character in this episode and then turn around and claim the Federation is into child experimentation and she would be placed in a mental institution equivalent to the worst of what exists today.

They have prisons

This is a Federation prison:

Molly would love a Federation prison. Grass, trees, no starvation, shelter, medical care.

they abandoned their colonies in the DMZ

The planets were under Cardasian control by treaty. The colonists who stayed wanted to be independent of Cardasia despite it being a Cardasian planet. If you bought a house and found squatters living in it, would you be angry at the police for removing the squatters? Especially after the squatters were shooting at you for going in your own house?

If the O’Briens thought a mental institution would be good for Molly they would’ve taken her there,

As I already explained, they had other options. They could have taken her to Earth or any of the thousands of federation planets to stay with her where she would have constant access to the outside.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

WoWow you're actually unironically anti-maquis? You think they should just roll over and let Cardassians murder them? Wow you're a piece of shit reactionary troll and I've been wasting my time arguing here. Fuck off xD those planets being handed to Cardassia doesn't give them the right to displace and murder the people there, jfc what's wrong with you? The "squatters" lived there before it was a cardassian planet, and didn't shoot until they were shot. Either you've got shit memory for star trek episodes or you've got some seriously fucked up takes on colonialism

They had no options. Molly was gonna get taken away, they couldn't just take her to earth. I really really don't understand why you're so invested in the thought that the O'Briens are evil bc they made a possibly stupid choice.

I take it back, you really should see a therapist. Someone who can deprogram the nihilistic bootlicker out of you. People aren't evil by default, and driving someone from their home or taking away their rights isn't OK just bc a treaty says so

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You think they should just roll over and let Cardassians murder them?

TNG covered the same situation with the Sheliak in the episode Ensigns of Command. Data convinced the colonists it was just land, which wasn't worth dying over. They could move.

Molly was gonna get taken away, they couldn't just take her to earth.

Why not? We are shown people escaping to different planets almost every episode. They didn't have to send her to her death.

Someone who can deprogram the nihilistic bootlicker out of you.

O'Brien is shown to make selfish decisions in this episode and you claim I need a therapist. Simultaneously you imagine the Federation, despite what is shown in TNG, as an evil child torturing organization and you think yourself normal.

You have no argument so you resort to personal attacks.