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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

have a new community controlled local police oversight board.

Who apparently are apparently not willing or allowed to provide actual oversight?

officer was called with the pretext that someone had been brandishing a firearm / pointing a gun at houses.

And all police officers should know that witness testimony is more often wrong than not.

You can't see very well what the officer could see because the view is obstructed. It's entirely possible that the kid complied but accidentally pointed the gun towards the officer.

I don't know why you give someone with a history of violence, that includes brandishing a firearm at their own girlfriend the benefit of doubt?

The officer shot exactly 1 time and shot in a non-lethal manner (the hand was shot). This was not a murder attempt, this was in a way the extra mile, the kid will hopefully make a full recovery.

Essentially saying that he panicked and has poor aim. No one is taught to shoot "in a non-lethal manor", you always aim for center mass.

The fake gun is not an orange tipped fake, it's very similar to a real looking gun. The kid also was not with friends "playing pretend" or anything like that.

I'm sorry, is it illegal for him to be carrying a toy gun, or even a real gun? This is America, we are allowed to open carry, or conceal and carry with proper licensing. Did the officer ask if he had a weapon on him? Did he ask about licensing? Or did he just give a vague command for him to raise his hands?

soon as the kid started yelling the officer immediately deescalated the situation and moved towards first aid.

Most people don't have to hear cries of anguish to avoid murdering children. Most people would do anything possible to avoid shooting children...... Are we congratulating people for de-escalating problems they escalated in the first place?

officer does have a messy history, particularly when alcohol is involved and when off duty, but was entirely sober at the time of the shooting

The problem is he should have never been back on duty in the first place. He got suspended, fired, reinstated, suspended and when he returned from suspension, he was put back on suspension within a month.

locally particularly with teen violence. They've been trying to solve it, but some kids are carrying guns and robbing people, some kids have been carrying guns to protect themselves from the other kids, and evidently some kids are carrying fake guns too.

So we have a problem with children with firearms? And the solution is.... to arm a man child with more firearms than the children, and somehow less violence happens?

They never should've walked around in public with a toy gun and "showed it off", and I hope they never do this again.

I played with toy guns when I was little, hell I played with real guns when I was little. This is not a crime, and even if it were, would summary execution be appropriate?

Why do you hold children to a higher degree of responsibility than a police officer?

officer really did something wrong, I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of it, but as it stands, I think the officer reacted reasonably.

He shot a child...... One who was legally following his orders. In what circumstances is this not something wrong?