TranscendentalEmpire

I think that's probably giving him too much credit. He's not really a democratic politician, he's a fascist.

My bet is that he is constructing a loyalty test to weed out opposition within the ranks. Anyone who doesn't fully give into the cult of personality gets put on a list of people he can't trust.

He doesn't really care about gaetz, but gaetz has pissed off enough people within the party to act as a good tool to test the waters of his own party.

No? What did I say that made you think I'm a trump supporter? I'm criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.

Mostly it's the regurgitation of radical propaganda.......

No? I'm honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war.

The civil war parallel was made because you are parroting propaganda that's been endemic in the South for the last 150 years. That the war wasn't about slavery, that the North just hated rural people's culture.

The parallel throws me off because the point I'm making is Dems are maybe not "just as racist" as Rs but the fact they're proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations.

Ahh yes, because a minority of of internet strangers have some bad takes, the two parties are basically the same.........except for the little caveat of family separation and interment camps thing, and even though Trump's main campaign promise was to immediately deport everyone he can.....

There's certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I'm the South.

And how is that a parallel to modern times? Pretty sure there were sanctuary cities all over during Trump's first presidency.

That's how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.

You're talking about two separate times in history separated by a hundred years of lived history. After the civil war, before conservatives torpedos reconstruction, black Americans actually gained a lot of economic and political power. Redlining and the modern prison system were a reactionary response by conservatives to desegregation.

I am absolutely not doing what you're saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I'm trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That's it. That is gross, to me.

You just so happen to be parroting several different pieces of propaganda used to falsely equivocate the both sides argument popular among accelerationists and radical conservatives...Interesting.

Our people didn't vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?

Who is our people?

Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It's a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)

I wish we could just have a light conversation about the fascist said the German to the Jews......

It's almost like even tangentially supporting fascism isnt a light hearted conversation?

Show your true colors y'all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don't share the same values as you

By values, you mean supporting a violent and openly fascist political party whose main goal is to hunt migrants to deport?

Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them.

Lol, is that the same logic you apply to the civil war? The North just hated the South for their rural ways?

I wouldn't agree with what the person you are responding to says, because I don't think anyone deserves not be ripped from their homes. But I can understand why people would wish unpleasant times to people who voted to do exactly that.

Falsely equivocating all of that down to, "hating rural folks" for their country ways is inaccurate, ahistorical, and highly reductive.

I don't understand what you're saying. I'm trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone's misfortune. That's kinda gross, to me

Oh please, the specific criticism you brought up unprovoked has been repeated nearly exclusively by leftist accelerationists who are too busy virtue signaling to even bother to participate with electorial harm reduction.

Understanding that people regularly vote against their own interest and then gleefully celebrate them doing so........ You are also sounding real fucking evil bud.

Tbf I did say it was passed after being modified to hell by special interest.

My dude..... The inflation reduction act is an amended version of the build back better deal. What are you talking about?

On July 27, Manchin and Schumer announced the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, the final result of these negotiations, surprising other congressional Democrats.[192] The bill, which includes provisions on tax, health care, and climate and energy spending, was introduced in the Senate as an amendment to the Build Back Better Act. On August 7, the Senate passed the bill on a 50–50 vote with Vice President Harris breaking the tie.[193] On August 12, 2022, the House passed the bill on a 220–207 vote.[194] President Biden signed it into law on August 16.[195]

Funny when it was the more neoliberal, pro-business dems that shot it down, shortly before leaving the democratic party.

Shot it down? The bill passed in 2022 after being modified to hell by special interest.

There's really not a whole lot of corporate profits to be found in here, though

If it's not going to be implemented directly by the state it means that it's going to be implemented by private businesses. Those private business owners are going to walk away with the lion's share of any money they accept from the government.

It actually raised corporate taxes, which is not a neoliberal policy position:

It's almost like corporations aren't a monolith of mutual aid and support. You don't think Raytheon wouldn't support raising some taxes if it meant they could funnel a ton of government funding towards the privatized military industrial sector?

I think the inherent problem with the build back better deal is it's still framed within the neoliberal trickle down economics of post Regan America.

Would it have increased some workers protections and child care, sure. But it would ultimately be a gift to the shareholders and owners of corporations able to tap into the 3 trillion dollars of funding.

Americans are tired of progressive bills that vicariously improve their lives by further bribing the economic class that actually have their boots on our necks.

People are tired of seeing headlines that the American economy is doing fine while they struggle to put food on the table. Nobody cares if your bosses retirement portfolio is breaking records when they have to pull overtime to maintain the same quality of life they had 20 years ago.

disagree here. Learn the language and hang out where Japanese hang out.

I have friends who have learned the language and studied at the university of Tokyo and still have a rough time. Loneliness and isolation is a very common complaint of foreigners staying in Japan for prolonged stays.

You may have a different experience, as you married into the culture, and thus have a family there to help break the ice.

Certainly, a number of people are anti-immigration as they see an erosion of their tradition and some, the I suspect it an ever-shrinking minority, Others are mostly fine with immigration if it's "the right kind/race of immigrants".

How is this not conservative and insular?

I have a loving family here in my in-laws with whom I am often involved (grandpa loves writing letters). As for immigration itself, in the ~10 years I've been here, they've added new visas with quicker paths to permanent resident status. One can apply for citizenship after 5 years (though it requires renouncing all others which is why I don't do it -- I do wish they'd change that).

Again.... This doesn't really seem to be helping your assertion.

don't know exactly what you're referencing here. There are zainichi Koreans who are in a weird spot.

Zainichi Koreans make up the vast majority of Koreans living in Japan, with a current population of a little over a million people. And by "weird spot" you mean decades of intense discrimination, including denying them access to basic healthcare.

lot of Koreans that are here because their homes/families were in the north don't take Japanese citizenship and, often, don't really feel Japanese either; they feel their identity is north korean, but don't move their either for obvious reasons. As such, they don't take Japanese citizenship and are basically waiting to "go home".

North Koreans make up a small minority of Koreans living in Japan. All Korean nationals were stripped of there citizenship in the 50's, and only regained the option of applying for citizenship in the 90's. With the predication that they would be assimilated into Japanese nationality of course.

Framing Japanese culture as conservative and insular was the polite way of saying they're still a fascist country, run by the children of war criminals. The only difference big difference is they got their guns taken away. But, they're still denying well documented war crimes, and funding temples built to honor people who weaponized rape on a massive scale.

Eh.... Unless you are actually Japanese, you're probably going to be hanging out with other ex-pats, or just very lonely.

Japan is an extremely conservative and insular country. They don't really mind people visiting for the most part, but they don't really think highly of people actually immigrating there.

There are ethnic Koreans who have lived in communities in Japan for hundreds of years who are still considered outsiders and are treated like second class citizens.

An unarmed bomb can be dropped from cruising altitude onto a hard surface and not detonate. The US military has had nukes fall out of planes without breaching the radioactive core.

And yet you don't think they could produce the same safety features for less volatile materials?

diesel electric hybrid on the other hand is a proven technology.

Yeah, you just have to add a diesel engine, electric engine, and a giant battery.....The whole point of moving to electric is to increase efficiency and decreasing the weight of primary motive components.