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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 53 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Avoid Musk at all costs.

It would be embarassing to drive a Tesla today, especially for the demographic that would buy these EVs.

You see one driving and you know the driver is a uninformed douchebag.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

TBF they could have bought it before we knew he was crazy.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 7 months ago

15th July 2018

That's when Musk called a diver who'd just rescued a bunch of kids, a paedophile after he showed up his magical cave diving robot that wouldn't fit in the cave.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Engineers have been calling him out for a decade, it’s just people told us “shut up, nerd! Elon is smarter than all of you! You are just jealous!”

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It was honestly hard to parse how disgruntled workers from legitimate complainants. The diver comment was his Mask Off moment.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most people (especially outside the US) don't give a fuck about Elon and his politics, at the end of the day they'll buy the car which fits their needs the most within the price range they can afford. And yeah Teslas have issues but my friends who own one are very happy with them.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

my friends who own one are very happy with them.

That's because the people who don't like them get rid of them. Their reviews are not good when compared to other vehicles in the same category. The Cybertruck is last in class (not first, last) in all categories except acceleration.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well I don't know/care, I'm not really interested in cars (and I for one wouldn't buy a Tesla due to Elon Musk's assholery alone). But my friends are, and after thoroughly evaluating the options available here in France they went with Tesla, and they don't seem to regret it.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's dumb? You can get BMWs or Mercedes Benzes in Europe pretty easily if you want a luxury car. For BMW, you can get an electric i3 for pretty cheap ($15K in the US) or an i4 if you want a newer electric car.

Tesla is firing people for a reason. They are selling fewer cars because the competition is better.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i3 is too small, i4 is too expensive to get the eco bonus so it's much more expensive than the model 3.

But OK I get it, you hate Tesla and you're an expert in the French car market, I'll be sure to let them know.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But Tesla is priced like a luxury car? My point is, you can get everything you want better with other manufacturers. Unless you mainly want to suck off Elon.

[–] ceiling@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I very much dislike Elon, but I have a Model 3 and it was definitely the best option for the price. It was $25K used, much less than an i4 and I like the overall design much better, but I know a lot of people don't like it which is fine. Have you owned an EV? The charging infrastructure in the US for Teslas is light years ahead of the competition, and you know that's true when the other manufacturers, that you say are better, are switching charging ports and trying to get access to the supercharger network. Let's not pretend like you can get EVERYTHING you want better, and that Tesla has done nothing to improve the overall state of EVs. The company would undoubtedly be looked at much differently if Elon were not at the helm, he draws way too much attention and is a terrible human being overall. And no, I'm not attributing anything positive about the company or the cars to Elon, I don't think he has done shit. I give all of the credit to the actual engineers.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

You clearly have no clue about car prices in France.