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Wait. After all this hype Tesla has only managed to move 3878 units of the Cybertruck? That's hilarious.
You gotta understand that metal this shitty is hard to find.
They should have tried discarded Boeing composite materials. Good enough to explore the Titanic a couple-ish of times.
“Well, maybe just the one time. Take it or leave it”
Who the fuck can afford them?
Lemme guess, there around 4000 billionaires right now
The target audience is people who can't afford them
Over 2 million goddamn people?! i know they're "only" about 60-100k, but holy shit. Also 5 year wait, seems more like 10 years would be realistic for most people
I can afford one. It’s not that expensive.
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Yeah he's an asshole too lol. Been in more than one argument with him until he banned me lol. Talk about thin skin.
The average new car runs around 47k. The cyber truck is 60k. There isn’t a huge difference there. The one I want is 80k. I latest have two cars. Both cost about 60k a piece. The truck can replace both of those.
Not if they keep taking it away from you.
Then you are left with 0 vehicles while they fix it
I’ll decide when I hit my number. My main annoyance is the mileage isn’t what they originally claimed. That was the appeal was a 500 mile range. The the sweet spot for my driving needs. Why I have two cars. Otherwise I’d be all electric.
Yeah, a 500 or 600 mile range would be about where I'd bite; or just a better charging network.
The reason I want 500 is the 280 or so I get is good most the time except when it’s very cold out. 500 would help during the summer and winter. When it’s super cold out I get Maybe 200 miles.
Yup and when I drive it's either nowhere or nearly 120 miles each way with next to no charging infrastructure in-between both points or at either end.
I could of course install a charger at my own house, but that only solves 1 end. 500 would be a comfortable buffer as the batteries inevitably degrade and for below freezing weather conditions.
You need a charger at your home. Otherwise they’re just not practical. Superchargers eat the batteries. Slow charges take to long to use except overnight. There are a lot of rural charges but they’re low voltage. Can take hours if not days to charge your car
This is not an unreasonable statement. I’ve had a Tesla for 7 years and tell people that don’t have a way to charge at home that it will be the only drawback to owning one. Especially if it’s a commuter and you don’t travel.
When I had a charger at home, it saved me about 1800$ a year on gas alone compared to electricity increase. Plus, you don’t have to leave 15 minutes early for work to stop and fill up on your way in and the incidental breakfast taco or Red Bull purchase while you fill up stopped, as well.
I work remotely now and travel all over the country. There are plenty of superchargers on major roads and destination chargers at hotels, but I have had 2 instances where I had to plan specific routes to visit remote national parks or I wouldn’t have enough charge to get back. I was able to plan them and see the parks, but it took a bit of forethought to make sure.
If you have a way to charge at home, it’s a no-brainer. My gas savings alone would have covered the cost of the car in the life of the vehicle if I kept the same driving habits. If you drive a ton in super remote areas, you have to pay attention to where the 2100 superchargers are. The car does that for you, but on the occasional remote trip, there are pockets of road uncovered by charging stations.
As for superchargers eating batteries, I’ve lost around 5% of my total range in 8 years and can get around 317 miles on a full charge (335 from factory). I hardly ever drive more than 250 miles before I stop for a break, so it hasn’t affected me at all yet.
Why compare it to the average new car instead of the average new pickup?
It fairs even better when you look at trucks. The average is over 60k for a truck which makes the cyber a steal.
Personally I don’t see it as a “truck”. It’s weird car
Yeah weird in that regard that a car wash can render it non-functional if you forget to put it into car wash mode
I initially thought it was a joke
Interesting, my Mazda doesn’t have that problem 😉
I haven’t read on that yet. Car wash mode turns off certain features. I can’t remember which one to avoid the car fighting the wash
That is the real take away. They have a large waitlist but can’t seem to build them.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. They have a large waitlist and are early in iteration on this product.
I’d bet they have hardware recalls for the next 18 months that taper off as they ramp up. The amount of new engineering that went in the cybertruck is insane compared to any other vehicle in their lineup.
This is why you see all of the legacy automakers having problems making EVs, having tons of recalls, and pulling back. New technology is hard to mass produce until you work out all the kinks in the design and workflow.
I wouldn’t by a CT because I don’t like the aesthetics; but, if I did, I wouldn’t buy one for at least 3 years from now. Same reason I won’t buy a Rivian R1S. They aren’t at the point the recalls are down to manageable. Rivian may be good in another year or 2. The ford EV line… seems like them pulling back means they won’t have a decent EV track record for at least a decade, if they’re still around then.
Most people on lemmy just want buzzwords, catch phrases and group think. Most Tesla recalls are ota. The pedal is concerning because if it does get stuck, it’s hard to just turn the car off.
85% of america has 100k burning a hole in their pocket
No, but we have a surprising amount of people who don't see too much of an issue with taking out a 72-84 month loan on an 80k truck. (that probably is over 100k with interest and fees)
Those people are brilliant
Poor financial literacy, not really planning for the future, or thinking the reliability will make up for the extra cost. Either way, I suspect there's plenty of people like that around the world, just that we have less public transport so most people actually need a car to get around (although most people would be better with beaters or just a couple years old sedan).
I always match my loans to the warranty. That way I don’t have a payment and repairs.
The problem for most people is car cost of went up and people want very expensive cars. I’ve seen people spend equivalent to their yearly income on a car
Yep. I recently got a newer car (a first for me, grew up on beaters and was fine until I drove a newish miata), and I remember when talking with credit union's officers that the new avg price for a lot of the loans they were seeing was around 50k, which just blew my cheapskate mind.
Cars just keep going up. I had a Nissan I bought new for 17k. Tax credits. Aggressive discounting. Etc. is was a 40k car. I still have it but my kid drives It. I choked when I bought my first Tesla. It was around 60k. I had the money but I’m just cheap on cars. They wear out and break. I don’t drive much since I work from home. I do travel for work but I often fly. My friend bought a 90k truck. It’s insane. I think two majors problems have to be solved for electric.
People complain about range but it’s not that bad.
More or less agree, pretty much predisposed to lightly used vehicles. While I'd argue that Teslas have a lot less maintenance than ice cars, the downside is I've heard that a lot is non-user serviceable, and any issues with the car are pretty hard to fix without going straight to Tesla. The drivetrain is supposed to last for ages though, so I suppose that is a definite plus. Evs have come a long way in the last couple of years, but the charging is still an issue, more than the range for a lot of people (myself included). I actually considered a Mini Cooper se which has a range of around 100 miles, but given I live in an apt the charging situation wasn't really feasible. Honestly, rather than having major charging stations on interstate routes, it would make soo much more sense for the government to incentivize a lot of higher density housing to adopt low cost lv2 chargers.
A lot less maintenance. Though they say tires go a lot faster but I haven’t had any issues.
All the parts are easy to access on the Tesla from what I can tell. No idea how hard they are to swap out but since Tesla builds most of them, you’d have to get them through Tesla.
There are companies that are working to repair the parts. Like fixing a motor rather than a unit replacement.
I’ve had zero mechanical issues with mine. The paint is 100% garbage. They claim it’s California emission laws but I suspect it’s something else. Any rock strike and you’ll lose paint. a car wash knocked off a large chunk. Tesla fixed it but it made me question the quality.
Apartments, condo, etc need access to a charger per unit. You need to be able to plugin on a regular basis. That is where I’d like to see more government money. Tesla has the highways fairly well covered.