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A 66-year-old suspect was arrested at the scene, police said.

Two children are dead and 15 people were injured after a woman drove her car into a child's birthday party, Sheriff Troy Goodnough said in a press conference Saturday evening.

The two children who were pronounced dead at the scene were siblings, an 8-year-old girl and a 5-year-old boy, according to police.

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're right, it would be great to expand public transit so that people always have a reliable option besides a personal car. I just don't think a comment that consists entirely of "fuck cars" is fitting regarding this particular incident.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any time there's an anti car stance to take, somebody will show up with some pedantic nit pick about times when they're useful, and I don't think it's necessary to caveat the original point to try to get ahead of any of those people. It's not the only thing to say about this incident but I think it is valid and gets the conversation started about how car dependency is involved here.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With respect, I don't think it's accurate to say this is a nitpick. People in Monroe Michigan drive cars. This story isn't about infrastructure, it's about a drunk driver killing children. And if someone wants to make the case that robust public infrastructure would have avoided this tragedy (which may be true) they need to make the case. Not show up and essentially say nothing but "fuck the thing that people from this place require for every facet of their lives."

Someone who is familiar with the whole "fuck cars" milieu might understand what that comment is supposed to mean. But for the people I know from Monroe you might as well be speaking a foreign language. They hear "you can't have a car" and they'll lose their job and be unable to go to the grocery store.

You're having a conversation with me, which I appreciate. Saying just "fuck cars" isn't a good conversation starter, and if the goal is winning people over it starts one on the wrong foot.

[–] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

The original comment wasn't even just saying fuck cars, it was a link to a community that discusses the types of infrastructural issues that allow incidents like this to happen. You say that this story isn't about the infrastructure, but unless we talk about that, nothing will change and these things will continue to happen.