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movie-web was just taken down with all its repos, Yuzu was taken down, then suyu forked it on gitlab and was taken down, countless clones of nintendo games, platform emulators, and a bunch of other things are taken down because they are hosted on the clear web.

If you're a dev and planning to write software for piracy, host it on I2P!

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[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 60 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Just don’t use public and free services like GitHub or GitLab. Setup your own webspace with a trusty provider, install Gitea/Forgejo and host the code yourself. It’s that easy!

[–] AzzyDev@beehaw.org 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not Gitea, they got bought by a for-profit company or something

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 30 points 4 months ago

Ah yes. Forgejo is the current community fork.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 9 points 4 months ago

So far nothing bad has happened and the company was founded so they can sell support hours to businesses. Just like lots of other companies behind Open Source projects do it. 🤷‍♂️

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why does that matter? The most popular Linux distros are run by for-profit companies.

I'm curious what real-world scenario you're envisioning that is likely to happen soon.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Then they can request the provider to hand out your details just like they can with github, gitlab, codeberg, or whatever.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But they can’t just DMCA it under false premises. GitHub and others just don’t want to risk anything and are pretty quick with taking down repos without checking anything.

Also there are still a few countries that don’t bow before the US-invention that is the DMCA.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If they don't honor DMCA, what stops them from suing you? And if they got that far, wouldn't you rather want a DMCA?

Probably staying on the clear web is good for discoverability, but that's a two edged sword, because if you piss them off enough, a DMCA would be the best outcome.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Clearweb platforms could have an auto synced mirror, and development could happen on i2p

[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 5 points 4 months ago

At least in Germany, many of these copyright claims have no real legal grounds and wouldn't hold up in an actual trial. All cases I've read into so far ended with a settlement - as the private person was too afraid of even more legal fees. Or were dropped completely after a while (full of empty threats) if the people never engaged with the other party.

[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Just host it on a russian server and problem is fixed

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't they just DMCA the provider then? To request to disable your account

[–] mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk 5 points 4 months ago

DMCA is only valid in the US. Those other countries obeying it are usually just doing it to avoid trouble, but there's no real legal obligation. (But if ignored, it is pretty safe to assume that any bigger company would look into local laws and try to find a different way.) But from what I've heard, hosters don't just close your account because of some DMCA. They will actually look into it and work with you to solve it.

And in the end, you could simply host it on a Raspberry Pi at your home. The ISP can't be held responsible for the data you transfer, so they won't just shut down your Internet connection. And if you get a strongly worded letter from some company, you can send it directly to the recycling bin.