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At least it should be paternity renounce legal also. Not all men want to be a father..
So... you're saying because it will be illegal for women to get abortions until after most of them know they're pregnant, it should be legal for a man to renounce their paternity?
Cruelty is the point. Republicans prove it over and over.
I agree about Republicans, but is the person I replied to a Republican, or did they try to make a good point and really, really screw up?
Not sure their point was a good one. They are fine with abortion being legal but want a guy to be able to not have to pay child support if a woman does not get an abortion. I could see that argument in the case where a condom broke but I think they are advocating for it in all cases.
Instead, free vasectomies should be offered for those who want one. You don't want to be a father, get a vasectomy.
Yeah, they clarified. They're some incel.
Whatever if it's abortion legal or illegal, paternity renounce should be legal, men should be fighting for their rights also..
What do you mean "too?" You're saying men deserve rights and women don't.
"all Rights matter"
Women deserve rights and men also, if women are fighting for legal abortion men should be fighting for legal renounce of paternity.
How about we work on stopping the thing that kills people first and then work on the money issue?
You do know women die in childbirth every day, right?
Then women should get their tubes tied if they don't want to die of childbirth. I don't know if it's legal but it should be.
Sorry... "if you don't want to get pregnant right now you should sterilize yourself?" What the fuck?
It's the same argument someone gave me about vasectomy and getting your testicles removed just in other words. Dumb as fuck tbh.
Okay? Why are you giving me a stupid argument someone else gave you? If it's a stupid argument, don't make it.
Extremes are both wrong, I'm just saying if there is legal abortion for women then there should be legal for men to renounce to their paternity, if women are not right now ready to be mothers then men who are not right now ready to be fathers should have the option to not be one also.
There isn't legal abortion. Not when it's only legal before women know they're pregnant. That's the whole damn issue.
Termination of Parental Rights is a legal process that is available in some states. Some being the key term.
If the woman is forced to be a mother, then by all means the man is forced to be a father to or pay child support. Men don't get to fucking ban abortions, and then decide to opt out of caring for that child. Should me get that right? Sure. But women should have the right to an abortion as well. If we're going to barbaric, might as well be barbaric all around. Hell, make it easier to garnish peoples wages of they neglect paying child support.
I believe you are right if women are forced to be mothers then men should be forced to be fathers but as women are fighting for legal abortion I think it will be fair if there is legal renounce option for men..
I got a vasectomy. They’re quick and easy to perform, covered mostly by insurance (at least in my case), and they’re reversible (unlike tubular ligation).
To be clear, they're often reversible. Not always.
I believe it's too late to tell you to not be a simp..
Have you considered not sticking your dick in people you don't want to impregnate? Or getting your testicles removed? Both are very effective in preventing pregnancy.
That’s some double standard bullshit right there.
You would not say that to a woman wanting to get an abortion.
I have, on multiple occasions, supported women who decided they wanted to take action to permanently prevent pregnancy, when they decided they never wanted to have children. Unfortunately, in most instances, doctors don't support women's bodily autonomy, but suggest they wait to find a man who can speak for them, or they can wait for menopause.
If a man wants his tubes tied nearly any doctor will comply.
But did you tell them to only sleep with people they want to have a kid with?
That is my issue
I believe it's better if women get their womb removed as they are the ones who get pregnant, but if they want legal abortion I believe it's fair to have legal renounce also.
You’re a pretty shitty troll.
🤣🤣 I'm not trolling..
Nice. Now can you, like, fuck off?
👏👏👏👏 and the audience goes crazy! For real like tf get of, no one likes you, the comment you reply to i mean
Did you have a stroke typing that first sentence?
Almost but nah..
Then keep your semen where it is not impregnating people. Also, vasectomies are a thing.