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[–] golamas1999@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should be 4 day work week and 6 weeks vacation. There is absolutely no need to work this much. So many bullshit jobs, just to keep people employed and busy all their lives.

Not just employed but underemployed. Forty hours a week for not-40 hours worth of money. We call it a grind because it's designed to wear us down to bare subsistence.

[–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sure, that gets you the time off, but this guy flew to Paris and hung out for that entire time and found his "creative spark". We also need like 50% higher wages so we're not sitting in a Parisian cafe thinking "oh fuck this vacation is going to bankrupt me" or stuck at home unable to afford the flight to begin with.

[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

We only have 6 weeks in Denmark!

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically four weeks aren't 30 days.

[–] KiofKi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With 20 workdays off you can go in vacation for a month. At most companies you have more than 20 days even.

[–] raptir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most companies in the US will not be okay with you walking off for a month in a row though.

[–] KiofKi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah of course, taking all your vacation days at once would be difficult anywhere in the world

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're right, I forgot that after the 28days there's another weekend. But as someone who did a lot of union work in Germany I can assure you that a lot of companies do not give more than the mandatory 20d for a 5d-week.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously... I literally just opened up lemmy after checking my vacation balance to see this lol Took 5 years to get 10 days vacation at my current job and I've used them all already... boooo

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never understand how American culture has considered that acceptable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mostly because American culture is "I got mine, fuck you."

A culture brainwashed to glorify "rugged individualism" is a culture of self centered inconsiderate assholes.

[–] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was very successful vilification of unions from my understanding as well. I find the discussion about unions with Americans really interesting as from my Finnish perspective they are the cornerstone of workers' rights.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Well something like 10 percent of us are still unionized. I'm technically in management, but I'm still a union member and I 100 percent support my union brothers and sisters over ownership. That said, having a unionized workforce is actually good for my company's owners because it allows them to bid on highly lucrative projects that aren't really viable for non-signatory contractors for technical reasons having to do with safety and insurance.

[–] cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget "I'm going to get mine and fuck you"

They hold the ladder for the former thinking they'll bring them up too. When the ladder gets pulled up without them they look for a new ladder to hold.

[–] sycamore@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

4 weeks/year is standard isn't it?

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My work you get one week the first year. Two weeks for each of the following 6 years, three weeks the 7 years after that, then finally 4 weeks once you have been with the company for 15 years.

If you don't work for any 30 day period, you are let go and if you work for the company again I'm the future, you restart the benefits back at 1 week vacation.

It's actually one of the best around. I just hit 15 years and get 4 weeks now. Yay America.

Oh I should mention they now "expect more" out of a 15 year employee so now my evaluations are almost always "barely acceptable", despite going above and beyond always. They want us to feel like we are lucky to have the job and they could fire us at any time. It gets worse the more benefits they are paying.

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

My current job gives everyone 16 days a year. I love my job, the dynamic, the people, the product. But I won't last 2 years max with only 16 days off a year.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get a week or I can take the check and keep working.

Guess what I end up doing?

I delay the end of year misery for an extra week. That’s what I do.

[–] sycamore@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The trick is to be paid enough that you don't need to cash in your annual leave.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Minimum wage workers hate this one trick!

[–] Kilamaos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao not even close. Canada is just 10 days. Afaik USA it can be litterally 0

Here it's 25 days minimum by law, and you are entitled to use 20 of them consecutively if you want to. If you have a good job it's often closer to 30 days.