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[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, please tell me do I convince an anti-intellectual logic that they refuse to use? I have tried to with no success.

I do not want my gay friends imprisoned for wanting to be happy, I do not want my trans friends lynched for being able to look at themselves in the mirror. How do you propose I convince those that do through logic alone, when these people are only willing to consider emotional/illogical arguments?

I don't care about arguing, I care about solutions, what are your solutions to this discrimination we both hate?

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're talking sheer pregmatics here? Awesome, now you're speaking my language.

Celebrate her relationship. Turn her into a gay folk hero for hooking up with women despite the upbringing / programming.

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Such a solution could actually work (the example of a Republican finding no controversial stuff in her school's curriculum comes to mind), however the problem is it would require the person involved to disassociate with there (presumably anti-gay) friends and family and be accepted by her former "enemies", which would be especially hard if they had a public facing role. They possibly may even have to reject a emotionally driven worldview/ideology they may have adopted, which is quite difficult.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to consent to becoming a gay folk hero.

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HimToo_movement

#HimToo became connected with rape allegations ... when a mother in the United States tweeted about her son with the #HimToo hashtag. She claimed that her son, Pieter Hanson, was afraid to go on dates because of false rape allegations. Hanson himself disavowed his mother's tweet, saying that ... he never has and never will support #HimToo.

For better or worse, past evidence suggests people can't be heroized against there will until they are dead (as was the case for the anti-nillist philosopher Nietzsche)