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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

This is pretty fucking elitist.

If you don’t want guns go all in and ensure the elites cannot have them either.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but it's also a joke. He likely doesn't believe what he says. He's trying to make people laugh.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some people really do forget that a comedian isn't a well-versed expert in the shit they talk about, and their primary intent is entertainment.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Same can be said for OP and Steve over here, the former of whom posted it presumably because they take it at face value as a good idea, and the latter defending it because he clearly does.

In times like that it can be a worthy pursuit both to refute the premise, as the poster who said "this is pretty fucking elitist" was doing, and to remind people of the nature of comedians, as you have done.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Except the top voted comment for being the answer is a joke says a lot about how much people are willing to actually think about a solution that isnt something far fetched.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A world where only the wealthy elite have guns?

What could go right?

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A sword is a noble's weapon and you will be killed for so much as touching it.

[–] Steve -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a simple, easily enforceable policy, with no constitutional hangups.
Gun deaths will absolutely plummet. Lives will be saved.
But sure, lets not do that because the rich yada yada yada.

[–] Steve -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It's a simple, easily enforceable policy, with no constitutional hangups.
Gun deaths will absolutely plummet. Lives will be saved.
But sure, lets not do that because the rich yada yada yada.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except that bullets are a hell of a lot easier to make than guns are. Black market bullets would be rampant and it would be difficult to do anything about it.

[–] Steve -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Black market bullets would also be very expensive.
Why sell them for 1$ when the alternative legal option is $5K?
They'd sell for something like $4K, because why not?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's not how supply cost and pricing work. Basically it would be cost of material + cost of capital spread out over life of equipment + labor costs + cost of being caught multiplied by risk of being caught + a profit margin. The risk of being caught would likely be pretty damn low so you might increase their cost by 25-50% if you're lucky but it sure as hell will be nowhere near $4000. Demand would be different but likely not enough to matter much.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes, let’s further consolidate power for the rich, give them even more tools for oppression.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Since when do the rich use guns for oppression?

They use money, not guns.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That money funds police forces and private security companies.

Guess what they have.

[–] Steve -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In exchange for thousands of lives? Thats an easy trade.
We can use other, far more effective means, to limit the power of the rich.
The power of the rich doesn't even have anything to do with their access to bullets anyway.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Those thousands of lives will be consumed by the rich, they don't need guns to accomplish this.

Those thousands need guns because it's the only way to stop the rich.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

What effective means do they have against the rich?