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Less than 10 seconds after officers opened the door, police shot Yong Yang in his parents’ Koreatown home while he was holding a knife during a bipolar episode.

Parents in Los Angeles’ Koreatown called for mental health help in the middle of their son’s bipolar episode this month. Clinical personnel showed up — and so did police shortly after. 

Police fatally shot Yong Yang, 40, who had a knife in his hand, less than 10 seconds after officers opened the door to his parents’ apartment where he had locked himself in, newly released bodycam video shows.

Now the parents of Yang, who was diagnosed with bipolar disorder around 15 years ago, have told NBC News exclusively that they are disputing part of the account captured on bodycam, in which police recount a clinician’s saying Yang was violent before the shooting on May 2.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cherry picking data does not a compelling argument make.

According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics in 2022 the total number of deaths for community and social services in the US was... 19. (That's on page 8, in case you want to check.)

I found a CBS article from 2017 that cited another BLS study which said that social workers were the 20th most dangerous job category in the US, with a fatality rate of 1 per 100,000 people. That's fewer deaths than architects and engineers, which was the 19th deadliest job.

On the other hand, American police have killed more than 1000 people every year for the past ten years. To put that another way, the police killed more people last year than social workers died of job-related causes in the past decade.

It's really funny that by almost every metric you can think of, policing in the US is systemically flawed and needs major oversight.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You should compare the number per 100k for the people killed by the police if you want to make a comparison that makes sense

1000 out of 330 000 000, that's 0.3 per 100k, looks like police officers are less deadly to the population than the population is to social workers!

Also very funny that you would accuse me of cherry picking data when only situations where officers kill people during mental health checks get reported on, right?

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you're trying to normalize your ass-pulled estimate of the entire population of the US to compare it to the normalized full-time equivalent workers (which obviously isn't the entire US population)? You can understand why using people who had no interactions with the police would be an inaccurate comparison, right?

My dude, until you get a better understanding of statistics I'm not going to engage with you further.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Ass pulled estimate of the US population... I mean, the number is easy to find my dude if you want to confirm it.

Not all social workers get in contact with people suffering a mental breakdown while armed either, how is that relevant to the situation then?