I'm sorry to anyone I gave shit to about the writing or about it being the Michael Burnham Whining Hour. Y'all were right.
Expect a name change soon.
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I liked seasons 1-4 quite a bit. I was never against the more inclusive and emotional trek, but season 5 was way too over the top. Every episodes arc was about being 'good enough' and knowing yourself and love/friendship. After watching the finale I was legit angry, season 5 easily gave me GoT Season 8 vibes, or Wheel of Time season 1 vibes, just wrong and for the wrong reasons.
Hell I even enjoyed the heck out of Prodigy and still found this season of Disco too ugh
I feel like a jerk, thinking it's too 'woke', but I don't think that's really it. Idk if I'm smart enough to find the right words, but boy was I upset after watching the finale.
That was like 2 minutes of laughing randomly and embracing awkwardly. Wtf.
Cool gazelle at the end tho. Better than Avatar 2
It's not that it's too woke, woke is a star trek cornerstone. It's because it's "corporation flying rainbow flag" woke. Stamets in particular does nothing but provide empty representation. Representation is great but there needs to be something to it. You can't just sit down and be like "ok, he's gay and neurotic and possibly autistic" and never develop any further than that. Minorities aren't cardboard cutouts who exist to check off a box. They're people.
Yeah, thank you, I think that's a great way to describe it. Do you think season 5 was significantly worse in this regard? Or perhaps I'm just remembering it better since it just came out.
Either way, I totally agree with you. I wasn't able to connect with any of the characters or storylines because they were so hollow and superficial
IMO season 5 was a little better in terms of getting representation right compared to, for instance, season 2. I did not like the strong focus on Michaels self doubts, it just gets old.
I'd say the way they handled the "wokeness" was generally rough.
A good contrast is that both discovery and strange new worlds features a non binary character. In discovery, a big deal is made, some insecurity and nervousness about coming out and then a supportive reaction when they reluctantly declare it. This implies that this a Is a "big deal" when it really should be boring, this is supposed to be a super progressive society, no reason the person should have been nervous. In strange new worlds, they just are. This seems consistent with the optimistic progressive universe, that contentious facets of personal identity today are boringly accepted in this future.
That's not a good contrast. It's a bad contrast. Discovery and SNW take place in two very different time periods. In SNW, Federation is still strong. When Adira comes out in Discovery it's during a period where Earth is xenophobic as fuck and the Federation is crippled. It's a big deal for Adira because they don't live in the same Universe as the character from SNW. Then there's the fact that the other non binary character was on screen for a single episode while Adira is a supporting character.
You can't compare those two so easily while dismissing the surrounding atmosphere.