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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 85 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 38 points 4 months ago (4 children)

There’s some of those, sure, but this shit like banning contraceptives, banning no fault divorce, attacking Medicare and social security-these are universally unpopular policies. That’s why trump is trying to pretend his campaign didn’t literally write this shit.

The conversations I’ve had in the Deep South with Republicans always boil down to: they have no idea.

I have found that the best way to argue with republicans is to tell them directly what they’re actually voting for, because they don’t know. They’re either dumb as shit, or they’re greedy and think democrats will raise taxes.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The positions that a lot of the trump supporters take up are whatever they all mutually agree are their positions, and/or whatever they are told is their position du jour… in other words, today they may say that they are pro one thing and con a different thing, but their loyalty is to the party, not to the merits of the positions they espouse.

The moment they were told that they no longer feared and hated Russia, they started saying “you know that Putin guy isn’t so bad after all”, as if the Cold War never happened, as if their perceived greatest enemy for the last 50 years wasn’t Russia and communism.

A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.

It’s straight out of 1984… “We were always at war with Eastasia.”

They will easily adopt the project 2025 positions if that’s what their god emperor tells them to do.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.

They still do hate Jews. They just consider Israel to be a convenient solution to their "Jew problem". Not to mention that it's the sort of ethnostate a lot of them would really like to create themselves.

[–] brianary@startrek.website 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Might as well ban anti-depr... oh right they're getting rid of Medicaid, so they basically are for me.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

And contraception. That's a real 1 2 punch.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I wish i could talk to some. The few i know are work friends so i don't want to go there with them. In the very few conversations we've had they try to talk about the economy/stock market.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I live in the South, you have people who actually study politics (Left Wingers), and Right Wingers who get told Democrats are "Just people from up North coming to take your fried chicken and make you drink chai tea out of a paper straw instead!" who "Can't take a joke, cause they're too busy putting men in little girl's pp places" by Fox News

Luckily the second they actually get a fuck clue, they're quick the switch sides. The problem is the older ones that are already set in their ways and only vote how the Baptist Church tells them to.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

It's a long manifesto. If you stop reading after 3 pages, it hit all the buttons of a usual Republican. The real crazy is spared for later.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget helping the poor bad. I'm pretty sure they hate the poor more than any other category. They don't help the poor, just like american jesus intended.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

They don't help the poor, just like american jesus intended.

Speaking if which:

[–] insufferableninja@lemdro.id 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

conservatives help the poor by personal, direct giving. there's lots of data on charitable giving broken down by party affiliation.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which usually includes implied "follow my religious beliefs to be eligible." A big difference between personal giving and allowing a social safety net is the decision to limit who gets your money. Which I do get; I want my team dollars going to stuff that helps everyone, like welfare, education, transportation, etc, not to military industrial complex or subsidies for already massive and union busting billionaires.

Still, on the conservative side it tends to aim more towards extremely limited targets, usually filtered through a lens of bigotry.

[–] insufferableninja@lemdro.id 1 points 4 months ago

there's a pretty big difference between what you are saying, "i don't like the way they help", and what the person i responded to was saying, "they don't help and hate the poor".

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Dont forget socialists,l - they're after their money they might earn if they just worked harder or won the lottery.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago

They only do or care what fox "news" tells them to. They lack critical thinking and empathy.

[–] marius@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

That's actually quite right. Google single issue voter

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because on its surface it sounds like something the magas would make up.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

It is something they made up. That's what plans are.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 months ago

The news refused to cover it until people made it a big deal online.

It's how it always works.