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When's the last time Palestinians got to vote for who they are governed by?
Not sure you’re seriously asking but the answer is 2006. Add to that the fact that the median age in Gaza is 18 years and it’s clear that Hamas doesn’t have a legitimate governance mandate. They’re a mob outfit.
Good point. We'd need a whole other thread to hash out the legitimacy of Hamas' rule. Palestinians right now are a bit like Italians circa 1942.
And Israel is Germany circa 1939.
Because every Israeli voted for the government they now have? It's stupid to exclude a whole nationality of people from traveling because of their government.
Innocent people are being murdered by a government. Telling people represented by that government that they are not welcome is perfectly acceptable. It is in their hands to change their government more than it is mine.
That's bullshit. The USA kills innocent people, but I wouldn't ever say all Americans are not welcome. I wouldn't even say all Russians aren't welcome. Many people oppose their government and yet can't do anything about what it does.
If humans are completely powerless to ensure that moral action is taken, then we shouldn't exist. Just launch the nukes now.
Do you even listen to yourself
Not for much longer, because human lives are transient. Which is good, because humans seems to prefer making the world worse to making it better.
Sure, bullying some Israeli tourist for war crimes they oppose themselves is absolutely making the world a better place.
Innocent people being killed is important enough to harm people by telling them they're not welcome to holiday with you, because you disagree with what their government is doing. Yes, that is a form of collective punishment. No, it is not as bad as being killed because you happened to be born Palestinian.
A thing can be bad while still not being as bad as mass murder.