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[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We can go back to "reforms" Harper government done like muzzling scientists and defunding projects serving public interest. Of course those same people would want to defund the only outlet not in their pockets. I haven't seen a single point on Conservative agenda that is not going to harm average person short or long term. yet people still vote them in and Liberals behaving like entitled pricks do not make situation any better. Even NDP has shifted to the right. There's no federal party with representation in Parliament that has workers as a central point of their agenda. Everything is now about business which is very much not the same

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trudeau has run his course and has become too entrenched. People are screaming for change and we never vote NDP. Pollieve is poison. He's going to gut our desperately needed social programs for tax cuts that benefit corporations the most.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I will never understand the thing about Canadians refusing to vote for the only major party that plans to actually improve their lives.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

With our current system you either vote strategically or with your heart, and those are often conflicting. Either I vote with my heart (NDP), or I vote strategically (LPC) to counter the CPC.

I'd like to at least see the approval voting system one day.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

I've voted NDP many times over the years.

But when they run a non-viable seat filler in my riding, voting ABC becomes the pragmatic choice.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bob Rae was and still is an excellent leader and statesman.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yup. But Cons scream about him every time you bring up the NDP as an alternative.

We are essentially the same as America, a two-party system.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

It seems that way if you don't know your history.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will never understand the NDP not switching their leadership and messaging.

Singh is not going to win. They need a more pro worker and pro jobs message.

[–] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

funny thing but if you look closely the most positive that have been done lately was coming from NDP and kindly forced onto Liberals. So i reality NDP doesn't need to win (like everyone said - populous is color blind to orange) they need another minority where they hold balance of power in their hands. So I wouldn't write off Singh as he properly played his cards so far. Yeah, he's not Jack but he did put policies forward and got them in through Libs. It must be residual US thing where Social Democrats == Commies == enemies of the state

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Induced behaviour. If the NDP was promising to roll over for every major corporation the way the LPC and CPC do, I'm sure the public would suddenly find that they've always loved the NDP, can't remember any other way. Our collective memory is curated.