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Being forced to relocate like that should constitute a contract renegotiation and these folks should get severance and unemployment.
They can deff get unemployment as this is a constructive dismissal but severance in most states is purely regulated by contract.
My job just moved to the headquarters, so I quit. The company did indeed offer $20,000 to move me and, if not, 2-months severance and benefits, with my PTO used first and paid in full. Also, the contract stated there would be no issue with me filing for unemployment after severance is over. That's how it should be done.
I can't blame them in my case. Since a large chunk of my duties involved shipping and troubleshooting hardware, it makes sense to have someone available to come in once or twice a week.
Anybody got any remote IT positions? I can send a resume. If you DM me, I'll not likely see it. Reply here and I'll get with you.
I'm curious what setup you have that allows you to see replies but not DMs
App notifications probably.
Toss me a resume
I'm pretty sure for the Walmart employees their options include moving at their own expense, or a swift kick in the ass.
Check city/county/state jobs!
Bad advice if they’re in IT. City/state IT frequently struggles to keep good talent, because they often pay less than 50 or 60% of market rate for IT positions. The only reason to consider it is if you’re looking for a retirement package. But even then, you’ll likely need to stay for 5’ish years to get vested in the state retirement system. State/city lawmakers really hate investing in IT staff.
Oh dang. I was told by a city worker that the it for city/state is decent and in demand.
Most people are reluctant to invest in safety/security as they don't technically make money. I'd label IT as a part of security.
Well my IT guy is shite so... I'll keep an eye out
Not sure of US law, but in Canada something like this would be considered Constructive Dismissal, so you resign and they legally owe you termination pay and severence pay based on position amd years served
In US law, workers can generally be terminated for "any reason or no reason."
Yes, but this isn't termination, it's making working so intolerable that you quit.
But it varies by state. There's no federal law about it. https://www.findlaw.com/employment/losing-a-job/constructive-dismissal-and-wrongful-termination.html
what contract? renegotiate?
you must not be American
I was born one but it's true that I leveled up to Canadian!
It's almost like that offer letter than you signed is a contract that specifies your job duties, pay, benefits, and time off. If you have a union, then there is a whole other contract as well.
Hardly the sort of contract that is ever subject to renegotiation, or even any initial negotiation. It's all very one-sided.
Every raise is a renegotiation. Every promotion is one.
I've negotiated almost all my offer letters. Everytime we discuss salary for whatever I've applied for its a negotiation.
It’s constructive dismissal, and they can 100% file for unemployment even though they “resigned”. Basically, Walmart is laying them off of their old WFH position, and is offering them a new in-office position. And if the new position isn’t on-par with what they were already doing, they aren’t required to accept it. They can refuse the worse job offer and file for unemployment (because they were laid off of their old job) instead.
To be clear: Walmart will 100% contest their unemployment claim. But if the worker appeals and provides proof of the constructive dismissal, they’ll win and get unemployment back paid to when they first filed. If your employer ever drastically and negatively changes your job description (like cutting your hours, cutting your pay, suddenly requiring in-office, etc,) you should be in the unemployment line to file that same day.