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[–] Steve 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've read them all.
They complain about policy more, explain the election system, and complain about Netenyahoo jerking us around. None of which suggests to not vote for Harris.

In fact they clearly state that Trump is worse.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think you are deliberately refusing to see something that pretty much everyone else here can see just because he isn't literally saying "don't vote for Harris."

But sure, maybe he's saying not to vote at all. Which is basically the same thing.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As someone who is terminally on Lemmy you should do more to build a better culture of charitable interpretation of what people are saying instead of trying to fucking gestapo-up alleged Trump supporters and silence any criticism of your preferred candidate.

It's toxic shit

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, Democrats are perfect and anyone who doesn't love their constant failures at everything but funding genocide must be literally Trump.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Careful! If any Democrat sees your snarky comment it'll cause them not to vote or vote for Trump instead.

We need a criticism non-proliferation treaty before it's too late to contain this dangerous power.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

But only criticism from the left. Without criticism from the right, Democrats won't know which principles they need to stop pretending to hold.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should look at their post history and see if that "charitable interpretation" is justified.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To me it seems like they're criticising her from the left and that's valid criticism. I didn't run a background check on them so maybe they aren't. Maybe they won't even vote.

I'm not going to bully them until they leave, though.

This community is extremely toxic. It's no different than the politics subreddit.

Keep punching left, guys. That'll work.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to bully them until they leave either. I don't even have that power. I'm not sure why you're granting me abilities I don't have.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Ok fair you're not the worst of them but you're contributing to the toxicity at least somewhat. There're worse examples actively harassing me and I took some of that out on you.

[–] Steve 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Close.
I'm deliberately refusing to infer something that isn't implied. I'm refusing to try to mind-read someone I don't know. I'm deliberately accepting their statements at face value, because I don't know them.

It's how I would hope people read what I write.
And how I believe we can have more productive interactions online.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well I do know them. I've seen them post here for a long time. I've also seen them switch almost immediately from "don't vote for Biden" to "don't vote for Harris."

[–] Steve 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If what you've argued about their statements today, is indicative of your interpretation of their statements then... I hope you'll understand and forgive my doubts.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

As a leftist I was critical of Biden and continued to be critical of Harris, despite hating Trump even moreso.

It's not suspicious, it's consistent based on our ideology.

As I've said elsewhere I'm an expat not a resident, so I mostly vote here in Canada, and I don't really like any of my 3 main options right now. I'll strategically vote to keep the Conservatives out, but that doesn't mean I like the Liberals and I'm comfortable criticising Trudeau.