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Finally, another web engine is being developed to compete with Chromium and Firefox (Gecko), and they're also working on a browser that will use it.

Here's the maintainer talking about the current state of the project, and a demo of the current functionality

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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, the use of AI-generated images on their website.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So?

For many small project is AI/copied images or no images at all.

When you do not have money you are not hiring a 2000€/month artist to do imagery for your website. You go online to copy something or nowadays you can use AI to wrap it up. It's a tool at people's disposition like any other.

And before anyone comes talking about copyright laws... shall I present them my 10 TB hard drive of pirated media? Human culture is to be shared, not gatekeeped.

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

you do not have money you are not hiring a 2000€/month artist

On the site I see like, one stock footage of a plant, one of a ladybird and some rando abstract graphics. What are you guys talking about here? Am I out of date? Should I ask for raise? (I'm not an artist but SW engineer, so probably not.)

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] data1701d@startrek.website 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

For one, AI datasets often break copyright law, frequently appropriating from artists. Executives are also trying to use it to eliminate the jobs of artists, and I feel it’s wrong to try and obsolete something people love doing.

In addition, they take a lot of power, not helping in the way of the needed changes to follow climate goals.

Clarification: Copyright laws can be annoying, and I don’t always agree with them. However, it also protects smaller artists. I think there are many cases where piracy is totally fine, though, like if a company vaults an animated streaming show and gets rid of all other ways to watch it.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. I am an artist, but I find it helps me make better art. Faster too.

But all my work is copyleft and I give zero shits about so-called "copyright infringement"

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"It doesn't affect me, so if it affects you, fuck you, I don't give a fuck."

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago

Nah, fuck people who try lock up information in copyrights without copyleft.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Normal people boycotting AI models will not stop executives from being hostile to artists.

Especially people who would have otherwise not paid for art.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

No, they will just hire artists who know how to use AI too

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

oh noooooo not the copyright infringement!

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I do break copyright law every single day of my life. And so far the only harm I've done is avoiding Disney a free pass to kill my wife.

Copyright law is bad. Sharing is caring.

Also I've make AI images with Stable Diffusion self hosted on my N100 server that takes way less energy than a normal computer being turned on for hours using Photoshop, so I saved the world by doing AI images instead of manually painting them.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I fail to see how is traing AI on publicly available images hurting small artists?

You don't have to write if you don't have time, link to explanation is good for me.

I basically use generated images in places that would not have any ilustrations before. There is no budget. When I have money for an artist I hire an artist.

[–] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

people who add AI features to shit like this are always the dumbest fucking people alive

you're not some big tech company actually developing an AI assistant for your browser or OS it's just a fake feature every time lol

if they're already trying to pass off AI imagery as proof their project is robust, they will do the same with copypasted AI features every time