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Notably absent from Walz’s speech was any real substance on foreign policy — including discussion of the genocide happening against Palestinians in Gaza, which uncommitted delegates and their allies have been trying to discuss for days at DNC. Indeed, most of the night, if not the week, has ignored the issue, and where it has been mentioned, Israel’s role in the genocide has been glossed over.

Uncommitted delegates in support of Palestinian liberation and an end to the genocide have requested that the DNC allow a Palestinian speaker take the podium in the United Center, to discuss a permanent ceasefire and an embargo for weapons from the U.S. to Israel, which the U.S. is legally obligated to do.

“We are learning that Israeli hostages’ families will be speaking from the main stage. We strongly support that decision and also strongly hope that we will also be hearing from Palestinians who’ve endured the largest civilian death toll since 1948,” read a statement from the Uncommitted National Movement account on X. "Excluding a Palestinian speaker betrays the party’s commitment in our platform to valuing Israelis and Palestinian lives equally. Vice President Harris must unite this party with a vision that fights for everyone, including Palestinians."

A group of uncommitted delegates, joined by interfaith leaders and their allies, staged a sit-in just outside the convention hall on Wednesday night, saying they wouldn’t remove themselves from that spot until their demands for a Palestinian speaker were met.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Empathy for American activists doesn't help Palestinians. If anything, American activists are often counterproductive. Telling the DNC to fuck off doesn't bring your goals any closer to reality.

And you don't speak for MLK.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nice strawman. I think we’re done here if you can’t even be honest.

Edit: April 16, 1963, King wrote his most famous “Letters from a Birmingham jail” in response to eight local white clergymen who had criticized his activities in Birmingham and appealed for a more patient and restrained approach to lobbying for civil rights. The “Letter” expresses King’s deep disappointment with “the white moderate,” who “paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom.”

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The strawman is that activists should be more "restrained". I never said that.

You can be as fervent as you want. It will still take years to get results. So buckle up.

And if you don't want to make friends with politicians then it will take even longer. MLK at least didn't burn his bridges in Congress.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

MLK publicly fought with LBJ over his watering down of the Civil Rights Act. LBJ supporters accused him of Potentially derailing his election the same way Democrats today accused Palestine protesters of derailing Biden. History isn’t as rosy as you pretend it is, learn your history since MLK publicly castigated those “allies” in his famous Letter, historically burning those bridges that you claim we need to build.

I’m not going to keep repeating myself since you refuse to even look at what’s historical record and have you keep abusing MLK’s name to fit your ahistorical claims just like Republicans do. This goes far beyond MLK, as far back as the Abolitionist movement which also didn’t try making friends and compromises in the face of moral depravity.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I knew that you had just that great spirit and you know you have our support and backing…I think one of the great tributes that we can pay in memory of President Kennedy is to try to enact some of the great, progressive policies that he sought to initiate.

This is how a successful activist operates. Not "fuck the racist White House that has failed to pass the civil rights act".

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh look you finally started to read what MLK said, how many times did I ask? But you conveniently ignored the one source I kept pointing to and cited something unrelated. Darn these facts getting in the way of your opinion, amirite?

This may blow your mind but MLK said both things at different times. Both to pressure LBJ and try to drive public opinion. One didn’t invalidate the other. You’re intentionally missing my point. I’m done.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He said the right thing at the right time. And when he wanted LBJs support, he said he supported LBJ.

You seem to think MLK never spoke again after writing the letter you cite over and over.

Do you even know who MLK openly supported in the 1964 election?