Lefty Memes
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
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Just more casual references to violence. It's cool when the left does it.
Removing power from the ruling class can be done without violence. In fact, whenever people have tried exactly that, with purely democratic and peaceful means (eg, Allende in Chile) it has been the ruling class that has resorted to violence.
Arguably in a hi-tech media saturated and highly networked era like ours, violent revolution is actually not a practical approach at least for advanced economies. Rosa Luxemburg was talking about her era, just like Saint-Just was talking about his.
Sure, I'll just ignore the rest of this thread and replies to me. You should probably inform your community they are saying the quite part out loud .
What can I say, welcome to the part of internet where people post memes and shitposts.
There is a distinct difference between progressive and reactionary violence
The rule of "law and order" takes constant systemic violence to upkeep, to protect the ruling class, their private (not personal!) property and interests.
This violence of the ruling classes is normalised, even legalized/codified in law. Standing up against it, however, and enacting systemic change is branded by their lackeys as "terrorism" or "violent chaos".
Class struggle is a constant fight of one class to oppress another. Currently in most of the world, the exploitative classes oppress the exploited ones. For society to progress, the exploited must suppress the exploiters.
(Or for the expropriators to be expropriated as Marx put it. But that's just the same in fancy)
After all
Mao put it quite well, which is why all following quotes are from him
(btw jsyk: quoting someone on a specific issues doesn't mean supporting their views in general/every other aspect)
This is why only after the abolition of classes, private property and states (ie. communism), will the contradictions, which are the root cause of virtually all large scale violence, be resolved.
Which in turn is why:
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I- what does this even mean? TwT
It means they’re too lazy and uninformed to respond. They’d rather attack you with argument counterpoints manufactured by the right wing, as opposed to using their brain and digging deeper into the “why” behind something.
You peddled a right wing argument talking point. Nobody likes violence but sometimes it becomes inevitable. History shows it. When we’re all reduced to renting forever and essentially being serfs to corporate America, do you think voting is going to solve all of our problems? The ruling class will never allow you to vote away their power.
2/3rds of American own their own home. Home purchasing rates are up for Gen z compared to millennials
Try again to justify your violence but use actual data.
I don’t need to justify anything. History has already shown us how this will go, even if it’s a slow, arduous process.
Keep trying to paint “the left” with sweeping generalizations as violence lovers while claiming not to be right wing.
You're correct, it's not the entire left. I should have said tankies and got real specific with it.
Great job ignoring the actual facts and reality though.
Short hand for the following:
It is, it has a hero's tail kinda vibe, terminator perhaps. Whereas the right tend to come off as SkyNet in their violence.
to come back to a serious point though, read History of The Russian Revolution and you will soon see the violence is a reaction to the class antagonism, these striking workers were peaceful till the police started shooting.
point to where the violence is
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/13080531